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Old 10-07-2009, 08:31 AM   #1
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We Told You So

Anyone who has fought for smokers' rights, against smoking bans and tobacco taxes, knew this next step was coming. What's shocking, to me, is that the New York Times, usually a big-government apologist, allowed this to even be published.

We told you so. We told you they'd begin coming after other things besides tobacco, which was reason enough, intellectually, to defend smokers.

CW News Entry and click through to The NYT to help generate some traffic, please.
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:09 AM   #2
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“There are so many reasons,” J. Justin Wilson, a senior research analyst for the Center for Consumer Freedom, said in a phone interview. “There are ideological reasons, scientific reasons, and policy reasons.
“From the ideological point of view, I just don’t think a tax should be a tool for social engineering, to change people’s behaviors.
“People draw the parallel with tobacco,” he said, “but there’s a huge chasm of a difference between the two. There’s an incontrovertible link between tobacco and serious diseases. Soda is one of a plethora of products that are overused by some people, but there’s nothing wrong with it per se.”
WTF?

That should appease the anti smoking nutbags who enjoy 10 cokes a day.
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:31 AM   #3
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....click through to The NYT to help generate some traffic, please....
Tommy, what does that mean, "generate some traffic"? How does it work and what benefit does it provide?

Ed-u-ma-cate me, please.
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Old 10-07-2009, 12:08 PM   #4
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Is there a link to the NYT article there? I just see your copied text...
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Old 10-07-2009, 12:33 PM   #5
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The headline, in the story, is linked.

Clicks to us and from us generate hit statistics and traffic. We need all of both that we can get. I don't understand it all, completely, either.
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Old 10-07-2009, 02:35 PM   #6
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clicked the link tbb.

If this is surprising to anyone they're idiots. WTF do people think is happening in this country. That its all just the big bad smokers. Wait until they tell people they're too damn fat to fly. Oh wait, that has already happened. While government tries to run healthcare - and already do to some degree with Medicare/Medicaid and the rest - they have a "vested interest" to legislate your rights away as an american all in the name of health and saving tax dollars so they can line the special interest and lobby group pockets.

Now I feel better.
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Old 10-07-2009, 03:12 PM   #7
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The North Carolina teachers' insurance program is proposing, TODAY, to raise rates on overweight people and smokers. Heard it on CBS Radio news an hour ago.

I REALLY do think a lot of these, if you'll all forgive me, "do-gooder, bleeding-heart" types DID think they could ban and tax us out of their little utopia AND it would stop there. One would hope that they'd glom onto what's happening. But many are also "intellectuals" which normally means so much book-learning that they don't know how to open a door without help.

Now, I don't want this to go to OCR, so let's all be careful. And, of course, there are many in the "ban, tax, and ostracize" crowd who knew full well, and KNOW what's happening and are encouraging it to have control over others. Some are such indoctrinated zealots that they really do want us all to eat tofu and drink carrot juice, for our health of course.

But I don't believe a majority of American culture desires this. However, they're going to have to enact this one before most will begin to get angry enough to put a stop to it.

In the mean time, I make iced tea and drink Chek drinks instead of Co-Cola.
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