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smbauerllc · 11-04-2021, 12:47 PM

Pre-Smoke Comments:
64 degrees and sunny, 34% rh, in my usual favorite spot in the smoke shack, and no beverage.

A 4.75x50, box-pressed robusto with a dark, mottled, Colorado Maduro wrapper, coarse, veiny texture, rough cap and very hard bunch. Nearly invisible seams, and strangely attractive appearance.

Prelight draw is flavorless and a little on the tighter side, but should smoke fine and have good smoke volume.

Smoke Comments:
Burn was even, but had a tendency to nearly go out, with a slightly conical coal, and light grey ash with typical structure.

Draw was tighter than expected and could have used some work from my draw tool, taking several puffs to keep it lit and get good smoke volume.

Aroma was fragrant and there was no burn in the throat.

Flavor was of ample richness, unequal balance, and medium strength, body and flavors of earthy, woody, with grassiness and mustyness dominating.

No sweetness or saltiness, and light bitterness, burn on tongue, and sharpness.

Summary:
Character was common and lackluster with medium body, and overall, was fair at best with a final score of 70 out of 100.

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Shadow · 11-04-2021, 12:51 PM

Smoked a lot of those back in the day. Always enjoyed them. When Martin sold the business to JR they changed.

smbauerllc · 11-04-2021, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow

Smoked a lot of those back in the day. Always enjoyed them. When Martin sold the business to JR they changed.

I did get the impression that it was a solid smoke in its day, but 20 years just didn't do it any favors at all.

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ak2000 · 11-04-2021, 07:14 PM

It was a decent cheapie 20+ years ago, nothing more.

BigJohn · 11-05-2021, 07:53 AM

I too smoked a bundle or 3 of those back in the day. Probably have one or 2 laying around in a cooler somewhere. He sold off the cigar business but got bigtime into coffee - and the coffee is splendid.

smbauerllc · 11-06-2021, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ak2000

It was a decent cheapie 20+ years ago, nothing more.

Cheapies aren't exactly known for aging well, or at least for improving any with age.

That said, I was recently given a 25ct box of JLP Cazadores from 2003 and they are awesome. Definitely much improved with 18 years age over the recent production ones I have smoked a number of, so you really never know what will happen with aging it seems.

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BigO · 11-06-2021, 01:50 PM

I smoked those by the box back in 98-99. For a long time, they were my favorite daily cigar. The blend did change after he sold it to Lew. I've been drinking his coffee since he introduced it.

ElkTwin · 11-08-2021, 12:45 PM

https://forums.cigarweekly.com/showthread.php?t=184013

scott1966 · 02-24-2022, 12:44 PM

Haven't smoked one of these in like 18 years

Husker · 02-25-2022, 07:43 AM

How about these. Still got some left and they were top notch sticks.

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11-04-2021, 12:47 PM	#1
smbauerllc Friggin Tobacco Lover! Herf Meister Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Buffalo, WY Posts: 5,856	2000 Mayorga Robusto Pre-Smoke Comments: 64 degrees and sunny, 34% rh, in my usual favorite spot in the smoke shack, and no beverage. A 4.75x50, box-pressed robusto with a dark, mottled, Colorado Maduro wrapper, coarse, veiny texture, rough cap and very hard bunch. Nearly invisible seams, and strangely attractive appearance. Prelight draw is flavorless and a little on the tighter side, but should smoke fine and have good smoke volume. Smoke Comments: Burn was even, but had a tendency to nearly go out, with a slightly conical coal, and light grey ash with typical structure. Draw was tighter than expected and could have used some work from my draw tool, taking several puffs to keep it lit and get good smoke volume. Aroma was fragrant and there was no burn in the throat. Flavor was of ample richness, unequal balance, and medium strength, body and flavors of earthy, woody, with grassiness and mustyness dominating. No sweetness or saltiness, and light bitterness, burn on tongue, and sharpness. Summary: Character was common and lackluster with medium body, and overall, was fair at best with a final score of 70 out of 100. Sent from my SM-T820 using Tapatalk

11-04-2021, 12:51 PM	#2
Shadow Charter Member Herf Meister Join Date: Feb 1998 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 5,400	Smoked a lot of those back in the day. Always enjoyed them. When Martin sold the business to JR they changed. __________________ Age, experience and deviousness will always overcome youth, exuberance and perceived mental superiority.

11-04-2021, 07:14 PM	#4
ak2000 Charter Member Herf God Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,601	It was a decent cheapie 20+ years ago, nothing more. __________________ Cigars are brain food...... JLOH #19 Last edited by ak2000; 11-05-2021 at 05:27 AM.

11-05-2021, 07:53 AM	#5
BigJohn Chief Geek, @cigarweekly Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta (north burbs - Woodsto Posts: 14,173	I too smoked a bundle or 3 of those back in the day. Probably have one or 2 laying around in a cooler somewhere. He sold off the cigar business but got bigtime into coffee - and the coffee is splendid. __________________ Government breaks our legs, then hands us a pair of crutches and says, "You see? If it wasn't for us you wouldn't be able to walk.".... Aren't we so lucky!? Need a website? Get one from a BOTL - > PM me! *"I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."* Help support the CigarWeekly webhost (me!) > Shop online? Start HERE: direct to Amazon.com Protect your computer from VIRUSES > Get Avast!

11-06-2021, 01:50 PM	#7
BigO Publisher/Owner El Chefé BBQ Guru Herf God Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Atlanta. Posts: 55,765	I smoked those by the box back in 98-99. For a long time, they were my favorite daily cigar. The blend did change after he sold it to Lew. I've been drinking his coffee since he introduced it. __________________ Every time you think you've become too cynical, the world finds a way to teach you that the real problem is that you haven't become cynical enough Free speech is free speech is free speech. There is no qualifier. If you aren't outraged, you aren't paying attention. Never attribute malice to that what can be explained as stupidity. Unborn lives matter too.

11-08-2021, 12:45 PM	#8
ElkTwin Ungulate in Chief Club Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,705	https://forums.cigarweekly.com/showthread.php?t=184013

02-24-2022, 12:44 PM	#9
scott1966 Herf Meister Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: USA Posts: 6,377	Haven't smoked one of these in like 18 years

02-25-2022, 07:43 AM	#10
Husker Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Richmond, Texas 77406 USA Posts: 314	How about these. Still got some left and they were top notch sticks. Sent from my SM-T830 using Tapatalk __________________ I'm not lazy, I'm just resting before I get tired

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