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Old 11-17-2010, 08:32 PM   #1
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Newton: least of AU's problems...UPDATED

If this is all true. This is a very interesting link (long) from Tiger Droppings.

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/m...asp?p=22778676

The involvement of the FBI, indicates there is a lot more going on, than just the Cam Newton angle. I think this is far, far more than just a smear campaign....
if even some of the allegations are true (and not just involving Newton) Auburn is in some serious shit.

Does this mean, that Auburn is the ONLY university that has (allegedly) committed serious violations, of course not..they just got caught.

Another blurb, is the FBI was investigating Colonial bank, and the the Newtons just got involved at the wrong time.

It's pretty long, and I do not verify or say that any of this is true.

I do think at least some of the issues with Cam Newton are true. There are just too many named sources, reporting too much.

One of the worst parts to me, is IF...I stress IF....this is true, and AU has an ineligible player (at least) ...the investigation may not be complete before the NCG....and it would be a shame for AU to go, and "win" the title", and have to vacate it later....thus depriving another team of a chance to go.

Just my opinion, even if Newton is ruled ineligible BEFORE the NGC....there may be much more to come out, and it will take months..and months, if not a couple of years.
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:21 PM   #2
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The kid's family definitely got paid. Every big school does it. NCAA must be hoping like hell for Bama to knock off Auburn and keep them out of title game. Then the LSU fans will say they belong, but they don't. If Oregon wins out, let them play TCU or Boise. If TCU and Boise are the lone undefeated teams, let them play for title. Auburn is going to get burned over this and Newton better start prepping for NFL draft.
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Old 11-18-2010, 04:11 AM   #3
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The sad part is, Newton will likely be a multi-millionaire this time next year and AU will likely be on probation.

I agree, that AU isn't the ONLY school that has allegedly paid players, but they got caught this time.
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:14 PM   #4
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Try this one. It flows from the FBI investigation of Milton McGregor, a major Auburn booster. Apparently the Newtons, and with them Auburn, could merely collateral damage from an ongoing federal investigation.


"McGregor and 10 others are scheduled for arraignment Friday morning in federal court in Montgomery on charges accusing them of buying and selling votes on pro-gambling legislation.

The bigger picture here is that the Feds have been investigating Milton McGregor (A major Auburn Booster and the owner of VictoryLand, which is located just outside of Montgomery) for quite some time. The Feds are investigating efforts to pass gambling legislation in Alabama and money laundering schemes involving McGregor and other prominent Alabama politicians and Auburn boosters.

The Feds have tape from wire taps made on McGregor and other prominent Auburn boosters from their investigation. The Newton's were just shopping their talent's to the wrong people at the wrong time and thus there is hard evidence available that incriminates everyone involved. It's only a matter of time that all of this information becomes public.

FBI found out about Cam before the NCAA did while wiretapping Milton McGregor and others related to the casino/bingo indictments. They uncovered conversations with McGregor, Auburn and Cam's uncle in Michigan. McGregor paid $250K to the uncle through a PAC and other hidden entities and the uncle funneled the money to Cecil.

The FBI gave this information to the NCAA sometime after the indictments were handed down. They had to sit on the information for 6 months until the grand jury indicted the men and women in the gambling deal. All of the wiretap information was sealed and that is why the delay in investigating. The NCAA had to go to Miss St to see if Cecil had solicited money from them as well. That is why Miss St is involved. They are basically connecting all of the dots. Miss St may be cleared because they told Cecil no. He then went to Auburn. The offer was on the table from McGregor but Cam wanted to play at Miss St and not Auburn. When Miss St declined to pay him, he went to where the money was... hence the comment, "The money was too much." The FBI met with the Miss St coaches, John Bond and Bill Bell today to get their official statements."


This is from the main Rivals.com recruiting board. I saw it on GoPowerCat.com the Kansas State Rivals board. In the interest of full disclosure, it was posted by an Alabama fan known as All-Day UA.
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If.... and I say IF.... all this is true, Auburn's punishment by the NCAA is gonna make the USC sanctions look like a slap on the wrist. And the Newton's are in deep criminal shit if they took laundered money.
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Old 11-19-2010, 07:34 AM   #7
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If.... and I say IF.... all this is true, Auburn's punishment by the NCAA is gonna make the USC sanctions look like a slap on the wrist. And the Newton's are in deep criminal shit if they took laundered money.
Think it'll be as bad as SMU in 1987? SMU still hasn't recoverd from that.
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:28 PM   #8
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Newton ineligible...then...presto..elegible....

First they ruled Newton ineligible ...then rule him eligible....amazing...the ultimate definitive ruling.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ncaa-eligible/

As stated in this story and several others, this leaves a HUGE loophole...for future pay for play athletes. They can just say...their parents acted w/o their knowledge.

and from ESPN

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5870788

However, if you listen to the video link of Joe Shcad's report, this investigation is NOT closed. Did NCAA jump the gun on this, possible ruling him ineligible...at a later date.
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:46 PM   #9
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It was my understanding that Auburn declared him ineligible based on the Mississippi State allegations then appealed to the NCAA for reinstatement.

There's always the possibility that the NCAA was told in no uncertain terms by the FBI/DOJ not to do anything that would tip their hand in their ongoing investigation into other matters and Auburn forced their hand by declaring him ineligible then appealing mere days before the SEC Championship game.

All that means is there is a distinct possibility that the big hammer drops later. Auburn went through the motions of doing the right thing so the NCAA, with plausible deniability, could sanction him to play. This could all be one extremely high stakes game of "chicken" on Auburn's part.

As additional information becomes public things could change.
Time will tell.
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:33 PM   #10
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My take on this, is that it is FAR from over. I think you are probably right, that Auburn forced the NCAA's hand on this. Which, quite frankly, I don't blame them. They should know.

What I'm confused about is, I keep seeing a rule quote, that specifies that if a family member solicits funds, the player is deemed ineligible. That he never actually received funds...has nothing to do with it.

There are many questions to be answered, such as...
Why did he back out of Miss State....and go to Auburn? No one has disputed that he said.."the money was just too much"...when he called MSU.

It is also not in dispute that Cecil Newton did solicit funds, albeit he says w/o Cam's knowledge.

All in all, I still think..if ANY of the other allegations are true...that Cam will be the least of AU's problems.
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