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agm1020 · 04-11-2006, 09:54 AM

Some good news on this front for a change.

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Originally Posted by Two Guys Smoke Shop Newsletter

LIVE FREE OR DIE!
Granite State defeats smoking ban by one vote

By the thinnest of margins, New Hampshire legislators defeated a bill yesterday to institute a smoking ban in indoor bars and restaurants. Although the bill easily passed the state’s lower chamber, the measure failed in the state Senate by a 12-11 margin.
Introduced by the typical mix of do-gooders, the measure ran into senators who took the state’s “Live Free or Die” motto seriously. "I'm surprised that a lot of the 'Live Free or Diers' who usually confront us with statements like 'stay out of our life' or 'we don't need more legislation' were the ones asking us to ban smoking," said Senator Carl Johnson, according to a report in the New York Times.
The bill was hardly riding a crest of enthusiasm among the public. An editorial in the Manchester Union-Leader put the issue plainly: “Granite Staters have always prided themselves on preserving their individual liberties by strictly limiting the power and scope of government. Traditionally our government has restrained itself from passing laws that protect people from themselves. It’s why we don’t mandate that drivers wear seat belts or motorcycle riders wear helmets. If the state bans smoking in bars and restaurants, it will cross that line
.“The ban is portrayed as necessary to protect innocent non-smokers. Yet it is a myth that people are forced to work, dine and dance in thick clouds of tobacco smoke. Everyone has a choice, and there are plenty of smoke-free restaurants and nightspots. Their number grows almost daily. Anyone who eats out in New Hampshire can see it won’t be long before smokers will have a difficult time finding a restaurant or bar that welcomes them. Eventually, smokers will have a few bars and restaurants of their own, and everywhere else will be non-smoking. Passing this ban will not save non-smokers. It will eliminate niche establishments that cater to smokers.

“No matter what one thinks of smoking, people should remain free to open businesses where smokers can socialize with each other. This debate is not about the virtues of smoking; it is about the rights of property owners. If people want the long arm of the law to reach into all bars and restaurants and forcibly remove cigarettes from the mouths of all smokers, they are free to live in any other New England state.

PCaponi · 04-11-2006, 09:54 AM

Bravo

Black Plague · 04-11-2006, 09:59 AM

Goddam, we need more libertarians in my state! Good job NH

piranha · 04-11-2006, 10:30 AM

Good one for NH!!

Jerm · 04-11-2006, 11:21 AM

We could use some of these guy's here in California that's for sure....

FSUScotsman · 04-11-2006, 11:44 AM

Send some of that spine to Florida!!!!

TommyBB · 04-11-2006, 12:39 PM

Impressive.

schuellk · 04-11-2006, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FSUScotsman

Send some of that spine to Florida!!!!

At least you have a concealed carry law...send those people with backbone here first, then ship them to California and Florida (though by now California is probably a lost cause).

jaroth28 · 04-11-2006, 01:40 PM

I'd say he summed up our argument pretty damn well. Why is it so hard for the other politicos to see it that way?

univibe88 · 04-11-2006, 02:47 PM

The state motto there is "Live free or die" and they aren't f'n around.

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04-11-2006, 01:40 PM	#9
jaroth28 Herf Meister Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Phoenix Posts: 5,405	I'd say he summed up our argument pretty damn well. Why is it so hard for the other politicos to see it that way? __________________ Lady Bracknell: "Do you smoke?" Earnest: "Well, yes, I must admit I smoke." Lady Bracknell: "I am glad to hear it. A man should always have an occupation of some kind." -Oscar Wilde, The Importance of Being Earnest

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Black Plague Herf Meister Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 7,650	Goddam, we need more libertarians in my state! Good job NH

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Jerm Starting Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern California Posts: 14	We could use some of these guy's here in California that's for sure....

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univibe88 Herf Meister Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Slidell 4 Life Posts: 5,814	The state motto there is "Live free or die" and they aren't f'n around. __________________ Karl "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe," warned Mark Twain, "while Congress is in session."