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10-20-2014, 11:16 AM | #1 |
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It's OFFICIAL Drew Estates sells to Swisher
First Torano to General, Then Leccia to General.....and now the Player to be Named Later........Johnathan Drew sells to Swisher ( subsidiary of General)....guess it's better for the Indy's to cuddle up with the BIG BOYS. Also read the article on .http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfe...w-Estate-17818
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10-20-2014, 02:13 PM | #2 |
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Oh that seems so funny, sad, and appropriate
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10-20-2014, 09:21 PM | #3 |
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I read that today, and I can't even formulate a coherent thought in my own head about it.
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10-20-2014, 10:34 PM | #4 |
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Eh, not sure what kind of impact this will have on the brand going forward. I guess we'll see soon enough.
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10-21-2014, 05:09 AM | #5 |
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I'm surprised but not surprised. Seems like the way things are going now days.
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10-21-2014, 05:57 AM | #6 |
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There used to be a term called the salty swirly. guess what it was. Now we have the asid swishy. toss up as to which would be the worst experience.
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10-21-2014, 06:23 AM | #7 |
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post on FB by Saka himself:
I have been getting slammed today with phone calls, texts, emails regarding Swisher's acquisition of DE. I have decided for good or bad I am going to share my thoughts. Like every other jag off with a keyboard I have a myriad of opinions regarding the news, unlike most I probably have greater insight given my experience in our industry and that I served with DE as their President and the CEO for eight years. That being said. I will willfully admit I do not know all the facts so what you are about to read is just my opinion. - Congrats to my good friends at DE. They have struggled and worked their collective asses off for nearly two decades. It truly is amazing what they have accomplished, a true American success story. - DE always has suffered under the burden of their rapid growth and expansion. It takes a tremendous amount of cash to operate a handmade cigar factory given that you are forced to buy materials three to five years before you even have the opportunity to try to create a sellable product. So even when you are doing fantastic posting those increases in sales, you are faced with a tremendous cash crunch given the investment needed to maintain the growth curve. IMO it was only a matter of time when either they would had to slow way down or take on an equity partner. Knowing them, "slow" is not in their vocabulary, so some sort of deal with someone was inevitable. - Adding to the mix the uncertainty of FDA it makes doing a deal with someone with more experience and capacity to deal with this uncertain future wise. - Given the size of DE, there are very few companies in our industry with the financial wherewithal to be such a partner. - Swisher is a very well run, privately held company full of good people. Not your typical corporate wonks, so knowing the landscape I think they are the ideal partner given the field of possible suitors. - I do believe that JD, Marv, Mike and the whole crew love DE. And I think they did a deal that gives them the ability to operate as a stand alone division and intact for the foreseeable future. What more could you ask for? No one is getting laid off, no consolidation of the factory or the US team as part of the deal. My understanding is that -all- of the existing management and key positions are under an agreement to stay. Seldom is a deal made where your people are given a fair opportunity to continue performing and for this the partners at DE deserve praise. - In any deal like this, all the parties involved are required by non-dislosure agreements to remain silent. Do I think JD could have handled his denial comments better? Yes, but that is in hindsight, plus part of what makes him JD is the fact that he is knock-around, regular guy, not some sophisticated business MBA type. And to be honest, much of the fallout I have been reading today is resulting from what other's said about the situation more so than what he actually said himself. I know this can be argued endlessly and probably will be for a few more days. - So what happens to the products? I honestly don't know, I do know however that the purchase does not automatically mean a change in brands or decrease in the quality. It could mean just the opposite. I do believe that DE will do their best to maintain and improve the products. - Look do I believe "nothing" will change? No… things always change. They would have changed regardless of who they did a deal with and even if they hadn't done a deal. Change would have been inevitable regardless, what I don't know is whether this change will be for the better or the worse, time will only tell. - And finally, I have read in a few places online speculation that my departing may have had something to do with this "pending" deal. This is untrue as we were not engaged in any such discussions with Swisher during my tenure. There I have said my two cents… this has to be the world's longest FB status update... And I did the whole thing in my Scooby Doo underwear! <snicker> |
10-21-2014, 07:10 AM | #8 |
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Met Saka a few times at Cigarfest. I appreciate the direct replies. Anyone have links to the JD denial comments? I hope at the end my Acid Atom Maduro's smoke the same but are cheaper.
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10-21-2014, 07:15 AM | #9 |
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If swisher goes in as a silent partner, as he seems to believe, all they will do is add money and help with infrastructure and other genuine essentials, and take money back out as it is realized.
That is the simplest way I can state it. That would be a very smart way to handle it. DE has been successful. Interfering will make them less successful in all likelihood. I still can't look at this and not feeling that it is the strangest, yet most logical matchup I have ever seen. Swisher grape blunts and acid. Just too much to process in one blow. |
10-21-2014, 07:18 AM | #10 |
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I can't remember a single merger that was accomplished by canning the crew. There shouldn't be any interference from swisher on a successful company. The quality shouldn't change. Seriously, I don't expect a break in prices because now there is another layer of corporate profits to take care of.
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