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BigO · 01-11-2019, 08:26 AM

Drawing a conclusion before the lede is even presented. Can you honestly trust this?

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...rk-study-finds

If they knew a damned thing about low carb, they'd know the fallacy.

Even if you follow a lowcarb diet, what carbs you get are from whole grains. Without a sauce, veggies (with exceptions such as peas, carrot and corn that have been selectively bred for sweetness) are negative calories and contain the fiber your body needs to digest. The myth that you don't eat anything but meat on a low carb diet is just that, a myth.

BigJohn · 01-11-2019, 01:05 PM

So very true.
No processed grain, no starchy veggies, no peas or corn (neither of which have nutritional value you can't get easily elsewhere without the starch...). That's a low carb diet.

Got an air fryer for Christmas. Used it monday to make some "fried wings". they turned out quite well. I will follow the instructions next time and make sure that the chicken is completely dry before putting it into the fryer...

As of today I weigh 228lbs. I weighed 258 last january. How? watching what I eat and skipping starch and grain...

BigO · 01-12-2019, 06:08 AM

Pasta and bread are a challenge, especially if you like sandwiches as much as I do.

Peanut butter wraps aren't much of a substitute. My girls taste what I have occasionally and declare that it isn't very good. My response is that if you're given that as a choice and it's that or nothing, which do you choose?

grtrx · 01-12-2019, 07:47 AM

life is an endless series of pain, disappointments and annoyances. But it remains the best of the two options.

KatDad · 01-12-2019, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BigJohn

As of today I weigh 228lbs. I weighed 258 last january. How? watching what I eat and skipping starch and grain...

Very well done!

capper · 01-15-2019, 04:31 PM

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Mann told the Guardian that the research “does contribute to the debate considerably. Here we have got very strong evidence that a high-fibre diet, which for the majority of people is at least high-ish in carbohydrates, has an enormous protective effect – a wide range of diseases including diabetes, cardiovascular disease and cancer benefit from a high-carbohydrate diet.”

I could have told them that years ago. Where one gets their carbs coupled with amount eaten and physical activity play a large role in ones health. The less processing, the better for you. imho

stogie5150 · 01-16-2019, 04:24 AM

Let the contrarian chime in here. It aint WHAT you eat so much, its how MUCH you eat. Lower them calories and keep it high protein, and you'll lose weight. I do it every day. Since July 6, 2018 I've lost 74 pounds. I don't deny myself ANYthing. I don't exercise 5 hours a day.

It CAN be done. The more complicated the diet you follow is, the less likely you'll follow it.

OH...cigars are zero calories. I have lotsa them.

BigO · 01-16-2019, 04:58 AM

You've done well, Keith.

grtrx · 01-16-2019, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by stogie5150

Let the contrarian chime in here. It aint WHAT you eat so much, its how MUCH you eat. Lower them calories and keep it high protein, and you'll lose weight. I do it every day. Since July 6, 2018 I've lost 74 pounds. I don't deny myself ANYthing. I don't exercise 5 hours a day.

It CAN be done. The more complicated the diet you follow is, the less likely you'll follow it.

OH...cigars are zero calories. I have lotsa them.

that is very true and makes total scientific sense. But it is harder to package up so you can be on talk shows and sell a book.

I would add that alcohol is right behind fat for being calorie dense.

BigO · 01-17-2019, 08:41 AM

I liked the show at first. After they discovered Magnus in Scandinavia, they seemed to be doing the same show over and over again. It ceased to be interesting to me. The early episodes were great.

Netflix and Prime have a treasure trove of cooking shows I've never even heard of, much less watched.

01-11-2019, 08:26 AM	#1
BigO Publisher/Owner El Chefé BBQ Guru Herf God Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Atlanta. Posts: 55,778	Even the title is biased, Drawing a conclusion before the lede is even presented. Can you honestly trust this? https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...rk-study-finds If they knew a damned thing about low carb, they'd know the fallacy. Even if you follow a lowcarb diet, what carbs you get are from whole grains. Without a sauce, veggies (with exceptions such as peas, carrot and corn that have been selectively bred for sweetness) are negative calories and contain the fiber your body needs to digest. The myth that you don't eat anything but meat on a low carb diet is just that, a myth. __________________ Every time you think you've become too cynical, the world finds a way to teach you that the real problem is that you haven't become cynical enough Free speech is free speech is free speech. There is no qualifier. If you aren't outraged, you aren't paying attention. Never attribute malice to that what can be explained as stupidity. Unborn lives matter too.

01-11-2019, 01:05 PM	#2
BigJohn Chief Geek, @cigarweekly Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Atlanta (north burbs - Woodsto Posts: 14,174	So very true. No processed grain, no starchy veggies, no peas or corn (neither of which have nutritional value you can't get easily elsewhere without the starch...). That's a low carb diet. Got an air fryer for Christmas. Used it monday to make some "fried wings". they turned out quite well. I will follow the instructions next time and make sure that the chicken is completely dry before putting it into the fryer... As of today I weigh 228lbs. I weighed 258 last january. How? watching what I eat and skipping starch and grain... __________________ Government breaks our legs, then hands us a pair of crutches and says, "You see? If it wasn't for us you wouldn't be able to walk.".... Aren't we so lucky!? Need a website? Get one from a BOTL - > PM me! *"I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."* Help support the CigarWeekly webhost (me!) > Shop online? Start HERE: direct to Amazon.com Protect your computer from VIRUSES > Get Avast!

01-12-2019, 06:08 AM	#3
BigO Publisher/Owner El Chefé BBQ Guru Herf God Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Atlanta. Posts: 55,778	Pasta and bread are a challenge, especially if you like sandwiches as much as I do. Peanut butter wraps aren't much of a substitute. My girls taste what I have occasionally and declare that it isn't very good. My response is that if you're given that as a choice and it's that or nothing, which do you choose? __________________ Every time you think you've become too cynical, the world finds a way to teach you that the real problem is that you haven't become cynical enough Free speech is free speech is free speech. There is no qualifier. If you aren't outraged, you aren't paying attention. Never attribute malice to that what can be explained as stupidity. Unborn lives matter too.

01-12-2019, 07:47 AM	#4
grtrx Contributing Editor Herf God Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Naperville IL Posts: 44,579	life is an endless series of pain, disappointments and annoyances. But it remains the best of the two options. __________________ "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Sir Winston Churchill "A sick thought can devour the body's flesh more than fever or consumption." - Guy de Maupassant

01-16-2019, 04:24 AM	#7
stogie5150 CW Master Boiler Club Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Slidell, LA CSA Posts: 4,466	Let the contrarian chime in here. It aint WHAT you eat so much, its how MUCH you eat. Lower them calories and keep it high protein, and you'll lose weight. I do it every day. Since July 6, 2018 I've lost 74 pounds. I don't deny myself ANYthing. I don't exercise 5 hours a day. It CAN be done. The more complicated the diet you follow is, the less likely you'll follow it. OH...cigars are zero calories. I have lotsa them. __________________ "I'd smoke in my sleep if'n I could get somebody to hold 'em!" - Brother Dave Gardner

01-16-2019, 04:58 AM	#8
BigO Publisher/Owner El Chefé BBQ Guru Herf God Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Atlanta. Posts: 55,778	You've done well, Keith. __________________ Every time you think you've become too cynical, the world finds a way to teach you that the real problem is that you haven't become cynical enough Free speech is free speech is free speech. There is no qualifier. If you aren't outraged, you aren't paying attention. Never attribute malice to that what can be explained as stupidity. Unborn lives matter too.

01-17-2019, 08:41 AM	#10
BigO Publisher/Owner El Chefé BBQ Guru Herf God Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Atlanta. Posts: 55,778	I liked the show at first. After they discovered Magnus in Scandinavia, they seemed to be doing the same show over and over again. It ceased to be interesting to me. The early episodes were great. Netflix and Prime have a treasure trove of cooking shows I've never even heard of, much less watched. __________________ Every time you think you've become too cynical, the world finds a way to teach you that the real problem is that you haven't become cynical enough Free speech is free speech is free speech. There is no qualifier. If you aren't outraged, you aren't paying attention. Never attribute malice to that what can be explained as stupidity. Unborn lives matter too.