Can You Imagine If Cuba Was Capitalist?

[gumby]

Would they then sell their tobacco on the open market to other countries to be used in blends? Can you imagine some of the cigars? Cuba could not grow enough tobacco so the quality might be compromised, but an interesting thought at least to me lol

[BigO]

What if Cuba was a state. We owned it after the Spanish-American War (including the Phillipines) and could have added it. Instead, we gave it back to the Cubans, and they fucked themselves into a Communist hellhole.

[gumby]

Indeed. If I recall my history, Jeff Davis wanted to add it to the CSA but never got the chance, then after the Spanish-American war when we owned it the ruling white majority didn't want to have a state dominated by minorities. The same argument was made after the Mexican-American war when we marched into Mexico City and could have had all of Mexico.
But I digress, can you imagine some of the top non-Cuban blenders being ale to add Cuban tobacco to their art?

[BigO]

Two sides: the NC blenders would most certainly benefit from having Cuban tobacco available to blend. It would also dilute the value of Cuban puros.

[TommyBB]

Originally Posted by BigO

Two sides: the NC blenders would most certainly benefit from having Cuban tobacco available to blend. It would also dilute the value of Cuban puros.

They have been using Nic tobacco for 20 years, at least.

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[gumby]

I think you are right. Capitalism would probably result in then overplanting, with less emphasis on quality.

[awesome1]

Originally Posted by gumby

Would they then sell their tobacco on the open market to other countries to be used in blends? Can you imagine some of the cigars? Cuba could not grow enough tobacco so the quality might be compromised, but an interesting thought at least to me lol

Farmers would finally get paid a decent price for their crops which is a good thing. I can't even imagine what cigars would cost if the market was open though. Right now the farmers in Cuba get paid a insanely low amount. I saw a video recently and it was like 100 bucks a ton or something stupid like that. Probably a penny or two worth of tobacco in every cigar.

Cuba cant produce enough tobacco for themselves right now. How much more farmland could they put into production if they had unlimited amounts of resources to do so. You would think China and HK would recognize this and start shipping fertilizers to the island. Or cows and chickens to make fertilizers and keep everything organic.

Tatuaje would be producing portages cigars better than Partagas.
Overall, it would definitely be a game changer.

[tonycsmoke]

Originally Posted by awesome1

Farmers would finally get paid a decent price for their crops which is a good thing. I can't even imagine what cigars would cost if the market was open though. Right now the farmers in Cuba get paid a insanely low amount. I saw a video recently and it was like 100 bucks a ton or something stupid like that. Probably a penny or two worth of tobacco in every cigar.

Cuba cant produce enough tobacco for themselves right now. How much more farmland could they put into production if they had unlimited amounts of resources to do so. You would think China and HK would recognize this and start shipping fertilizers to the island. Or cows and chickens to make fertilizers and keep everything organic.

Tatuaje would be producing portages cigars better than Partagas.
Overall, it would definitely be a game changer.

We would see an explosion of both puro and blends. Capitalism uses resources more efficiently. Farmers would gain wealth which would lead to developing more fields and using the existing ones in a much better way. We would see prices drop and a vast improvement in the product.

[awesome1]

Originally Posted by tonycsmoke

We would see an explosion of both puro and blends. Capitalism uses resources more efficiently. Farmers would gain wealth which would lead to developing more fields and using the existing ones in a much better way. We would see prices drop and a vast improvement in the product.

Perhaps with tobacco that would happen. However, we have seen how farmers in the US get treated when it comes to food production. Yields are the most important thing. Quality of food in the US is one of the worst if not the worst in the developed world. Capitalism has not been very kind to our farmers.
Tobacco is a different story in the US I guess. My 2 pack a day habit of cigs cost me 12.00 a pack. Someone is making a killing. Not sure how the CT and PA cigar tobacco farmers do. I imagine it's ok since they are still in business.

[tonycsmoke]

Originally Posted by awesome1

Perhaps with tobacco that would happen. However, we have seen how farmers in the US get treated when it comes to food production. Yields are the most important thing. Quality of food in the US is one of the worst if not the worst in the developed world. Capitalism has not been very kind to our farmers.
Tobacco is a different story in the US I guess. My 2 pack a day habit of cigs cost me 12.00 a pack. Someone is making a killing. Not sure how the CT and PA cigar tobacco farmers do. I imagine it's ok since they are still in business.

Farming in the US is a profitable business. It is one of the most regulated industries. Not to get political (has nothing to do with current politics) but there is still a ton of subsidies, crop planting direction etc that is left over from The Great Depression.

Even if we applied our rules to what is going on in Cuba it would be a vast improvement. If the stories are true they can't afford to fertilize the fields.