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Old 05-10-2006, 12:04 PM   #1
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water canister placement in cabinet humidor

For those with cabinet humidors: On what level (shelf) do you guys put your water canister in your humidor?

Mine has 3 levels, and I keep it on the top shelf, with the reasoning being that humidity falls to lower levels, but does not naturally rise. Is this bunk? In a smaller cabinet, with the circulating fans too, it might not make much of a difference, but I thought I'd ask.
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Old 05-10-2006, 12:16 PM   #2
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Actually, humid air rises, but with a circulating fan it doesn't make much difference.
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Old 05-10-2006, 12:44 PM   #3
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Mine is on the bottom shelf, with circulating fans.
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Old 05-10-2006, 05:18 PM   #4
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Actually, humid air rises, but with a circulating fan it doesn't make much difference.
This is correct. Humid air is lighter and will rise. Keep the canister on the bottom (floor) of the cabinet.
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Old 05-11-2006, 05:25 AM   #5
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I'm not disagreeing with the laws of physics, but how come so many of us have large varyations from top-bottom in our 'dors, with the top being several points lower in RH?
I would have said put it on the top shelf.
(Ideally, I'd try both and see which worked better for you)
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Old 05-11-2006, 05:35 AM   #6
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I'm not sure what type of cabinet you have, but Aristocrat, Avallo, etc, all put the canister on the bottom or, in a very large cabinet, on the second to the bottom shelf.
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Old 05-11-2006, 07:48 AM   #7
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Actually, humid air rises, but with a circulating fan it doesn't make much difference.
This is correct. Humid air is lighter and will rise. Keep the canister on the bottom (floor) of the cabinet.

This is incorrect.

Warm air rises, cold air falls.

Active humidifiers based on the cold evaporation principle (such as the ones used in humidor cabinets) will ever so slightly cool the air by humidifying it, thereby causing it to fall.
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:00 AM   #8
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Actually, humid air rises, but with a circulating fan it doesn't make much difference.
This is correct. Humid air is lighter and will rise. Keep the canister on the bottom (floor) of the cabinet.

This is incorrect.

Warm air rises, cold air falls.

Active humidifiers based on the cold evaporation principle (such as the ones used in humidor cabinets) will ever so slightly cool the air by humidifying it, thereby causing it to fall.
Even if that were to happen, once the temperature stabilizes, the more humid air should rise as it is lighter. But, yes, temperature of the air can also affect RH. If you raise the temp (and the water content stays the same) the RH will drop and vice versa.

But regardless of all the science, I'd go with what Bob Staebell recommends.
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Old 05-12-2006, 05:28 AM   #9
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It's a Danby Bar fridge-a-dor.
Guess we all just have to do what works for us on a case by case basis.

I found a great quick article:
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/wdensity.htm
3rd paragraph down, titled "Humidity and Air Density".
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Old 05-12-2006, 02:20 PM   #10
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Bottom. Bob wouldn't lead us astray...
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