Cigar Weekly

tschreier · 07-22-2002, 01:37 AM

I have never had a beetle problem before, and so I have never frozen my sticks. Anyway my collection will be gaining some new arrivels from our favorite island. Since this is the largest $$ outlay for smokes Im rather nervious about storage.

With my connie collection I have never thought to hard about bugs. So I need to get some good advice, on proper freezing and procedures. Humi's all sit at 68-72f and 70% hum. re salt check hydrometers every 3 mths. So Im covered on that end.

But also what about in or out of the box? With all my others I open the outer wrap or open the box about 1/16th to allow air flow.

tia

rmklaw1 · 07-22-2002, 10:48 AM

I would also like to hear the words of widsdom.

!!!!!Mas vale un cigarro en la boca que veinticinco en camino!!!!!

!!!!!A cigar in you mouth is better than twenty-five on their way!!!!!

Mayhem · 07-22-2002, 11:31 AM

I have never had beetle problems and I have never frozen a cigar. If this is concerning you, I suggest keeping new arrivals segregated in their own box or bundle for a while.

scotsman40 · 07-22-2002, 11:52 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't a lot of vendors Freeze when they first get their supplies?

Ross · 07-22-2002, 12:48 PM

I have frozen all cigars from questionable sources (which includes habanos). I never freeze from most US sources. Now, if you choose to freeze, to be affective it must be at least -20 degrees F. Most upright home style freezers cannot achieve that. I have an older Sears chest freezer set to lowest temps it's capable of and it barely achieves -20-25 degrees. I freeze for 72 hours then into refridge for 24 hours then on basement coolerdor for another 24 hours then into humidor. There's lots of stuff in archives on this including discussions on affectiveness.

mannish · 07-22-2002, 03:56 PM

I never froze anything but some LGCs never hd a problem.

fvfanmc · 07-22-2002, 07:04 PM

I never had a beetle problem, but I freeze them becuase it couldn't hurt.

BigBlue · 07-22-2002, 08:04 PM

Freezing is worth the peace of mind. I'm waiting until I ruin a batch of cigars before I start freezing, but I've only got crap cigars anyway. If it makes you feel better, get some info and freeze away.

Oppie X · 07-22-2002, 08:37 PM

I never feeze.There have been test saying that it will not effect your cigars but I can't bring myself to do it.It has also been said that you need a freezer that will need to go below the temp. of a normal one for it to be effective.

rramstad · 07-22-2002, 09:17 PM

I'd say it has everything to do with your climate. If you keep your cigars at or below 70 degrees, you almost certainly will not have problems.

I've heard that official Habanos cigars are fumigated, but that "custom rolled" cigars are not... so it would follow that it might make sense to freeze any "custom rolled" cigars and/or cigars of unknown origin.

I live in Seattle, my humidor is in my basement, I've had no problems with anything, including LGC Miami cigars... YMMV.

My cigars only occasionally get above 70 degrees even in the hottest part of the summer and at night are routinely at 65 degrees or so.

07-22-2002, 10:48 AM	#2
rmklaw1 Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: California and Mexico Posts: 474	I would also like to hear the words of widsdom. !!!!!Mas vale un cigarro en la boca que veinticinco en camino!!!!! !!!!!A cigar in you mouth is better than twenty-five on their way!!!!! __________________ "Fortune Favors the Brave"

07-22-2002, 11:31 AM	#3
Mayhem Club Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 1,112	I have never had beetle problems and I have never frozen a cigar. If this is concerning you, I suggest keeping new arrivals segregated in their own box or bundle for a while. __________________ The older I get, the more I come to the realization that if it isn't in the Yellow Pages, it's exactly what I need.

07-22-2002, 11:52 AM	#4
scotsman40 Club Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,878	Correct me if I'm wrong but don't a lot of vendors Freeze when they first get their supplies? __________________ Please don't ask what's under my kilt!

07-22-2002, 12:48 PM	#5
Ross Club Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Cadillac, MI Posts: 1,087	I have frozen all cigars from questionable sources (which includes habanos). I never freeze from most US sources. Now, if you choose to freeze, to be affective it must be at least -20 degrees F. Most upright home style freezers cannot achieve that. I have an older Sears chest freezer set to lowest temps it's capable of and it barely achieves -20-25 degrees. I freeze for 72 hours then into refridge for 24 hours then on basement coolerdor for another 24 hours then into humidor. There's lots of stuff in archives on this including discussions on affectiveness. __________________ My current rotation: Most Perdomo, Oliva O, G and V, most CAO, Nub 464 maduro, Nub 464 Habano, a box or two of 5-Vegas, a couple boxes of ERdM Robusto Largo, Some AF Hemingway SS and some others I can't remember. It's a well-stocked Delta-T.

07-22-2002, 03:56 PM	#6
mannish Herf God Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Springville, AL USA Posts: 15,789	I never froze anything but some LGCs never hd a problem. __________________ “We do not see things as they are, we see them as we are.”

07-22-2002, 01:37 AM	#1
tschreier Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 17116 120th pl ne Arlington 98223, WA USA Posts: 118	I have never had a beetle problem before, and so I have never frozen my sticks. Anyway my collection will be gaining some new arrivels from our favorite island. Since this is the largest $$ outlay for smokes Im rather nervious about storage. With my connie collection I have never thought to hard about bugs. So I need to get some good advice, on proper freezing and procedures. Humi's all sit at 68-72f and 70% hum. re salt check hydrometers every 3 mths. So Im covered on that end. But also what about in or out of the box? With all my others I open the outer wrap or open the box about 1/16th to allow air flow. tia

07-22-2002, 07:04 PM	#7
fvfanmc Self Exiled Herf God Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Kearny, NJ Posts: 40,584	I never had a beetle problem, but I freeze them becuase it couldn't hurt.

07-22-2002, 08:04 PM	#8
BigBlue Starting Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jackson, NJ USA Posts: 83	Freezing is worth the peace of mind. I'm waiting until I ruin a batch of cigars before I start freezing, but I've only got crap cigars anyway. If it makes you feel better, get some info and freeze away.

07-22-2002, 08:37 PM	#9
Oppie X Herf Meister Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: North Providence, RI USA Posts: 9,238	I never feeze.There have been test saying that it will not effect your cigars but I can't bring myself to do it.It has also been said that you need a freezer that will need to go below the temp. of a normal one for it to be effective. __________________ Oppie X

07-22-2002, 09:17 PM	#10
rramstad Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle, WA USA Posts: 777	I'd say it has everything to do with your climate. If you keep your cigars at or below 70 degrees, you almost certainly will not have problems. I've heard that official Habanos cigars are fumigated, but that "custom rolled" cigars are not... so it would follow that it might make sense to freeze any "custom rolled" cigars and/or cigars of unknown origin. I live in Seattle, my humidor is in my basement, I've had no problems with anything, including LGC Miami cigars... YMMV. My cigars only occasionally get above 70 degrees even in the hottest part of the summer and at night are routinely at 65 degrees or so.

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