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Old 08-03-2017, 06:45 PM   #1
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Please explain to me why this is a dumb idea

It has long eluded me why NFL teams have not recruited RBs from rugby teams. In addition to plowing through DBs, it would also be productive to have a couple of them line up and lateral pass the ball back and forth like they do in rugby

Like the wildcat, teams would adjust, but with the right lines and execution, it could be successful for at least a couple of seasons.

Another plus is that rugby players don't use pads. They are more than tough enough to play in the NFL.

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Old 08-03-2017, 08:42 PM   #2
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They do seem to have the right skills to do the job. My guess is that they are not willing to pay to train. A rugby player probably would need to spend a bit of time learning the game (terminology, etc.) in addition to learning the offense.
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Lattering the ball before being tackled? Check.
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Lattering the ball before being tackled? Check.
I do know there were a couple of teams that had rugby players on their rosters I just can't think of their names off the top of my head.
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there are a handful of rugby and Australian rules players in the NFL. My guess is there are not many because the games are so different. And taking a roster spot from someone who already knows the game may seem to big a risk to an NFL coach and GM. It is a risk averse business. They want sure things. Even super fast track runners don't all end up at WR's... and you'd think that would be an easier conversion (except for the getting hit by fast moving big men)

The lateral passes... probably very few coaches like that idea. They punish players for letting go of the ball. As Woody Hayes said 3 things can happen when you pass the ball and 2 of them are bad.

I also wonder if getting hit at full speed by a guy in pads equates to rugby. Given the devastating injuries...

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/29/sport/...ens/index.html


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"To play American football and rugby, you need to be tough, you need to be competitive, you need to be all these things," he says. "But the actual way the games are played, they're completely night and day.

"Other than the tackling and the catching and that kind of stuff, they share very few similarities. It really has been a very humbling experience for me. Most of my life I've always been really good at rugby, things have come quite naturally to me.
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It has long eluded me why NFL teams have not recruited RBs from rugby teams. In addition to plowing through DBs, it would also be productive to have a couple of them line up and lateral pass the ball back and forth like they do in rugby

Like the wildcat, teams would adjust, but with the right lines and execution, it could be successful for at least a couple of seasons.

Another plus is that rugby players don't use pads. They are more than tough enough to play in the NFL.

Kind of an advanced option.
The NFL is speed game, and most Rugby players aren't fast enough.

Most also don't have any understanding football. Plays, schemes, running pass routes and most importantly pass blocking, which they haven't done. College ball is many times more complex than HS, and the NFL tens of times more complex than college. Not a real good change a rugby guy is going to pick it up in the week or two he'll be in camp.

The NFL rarely uses fullbacks anymore, which is the place I could see rugby player fitting in at RB.

One final thing, The RB position is more and more becoming a RB by committee position. Outside of a rare few, RBs have become nearly expendable since there are so many good college RBs on the market competing for very few roster spots.
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The NFL is speed game, and most Rugby players aren't fast enough.

Most also don't have any understanding football. Plays, schemes, running pass routes and most importantly pass blocking, which they haven't done. College ball is many times more complex than HS, and the NFL tens of times more complex than college. Not a real good change a rugby guy is going to pick it up in the week or two he'll be in camp.

The NFL rarely uses fullbacks anymore, which is the place I could see rugby player fitting in at RB.

One final thing, The RB position is more and more becoming a RB by committee position. Outside of a rare few, RBs have become nearly expendable since there are so many good college RBs on the market competing for very few roster spots.
That makes sense to me.

RB by committee is a realthing, it also allows you to have specialists for situations.
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RB by committee really sucks if you're playing fantasy football.
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everyone is in the same boat. Hope to find the specialist who bangs it in from short yardage.
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