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Old 08-27-2003, 02:46 PM   #1
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Where have I been???

I put on my Parker at Birdland CD after not listening to it for about 5 years and I was suddenly struck.

I couldn't remember that the album is:

McCoy Tyner = Piano
Jimmy Garrison = Bass
Elvin Jones = Drums
Chucky = Cheeze Machine (and Soprano Cheeze Machine)

And I had to open the cover to read that

Three of my all time favorite players and I couldn't remember they are on this recording. And where have I been that I haven't filled out my collection of the other great Elvin Jones albums?!?!?!

Somehow I got sidetracked by that Miles crew with Ron Carter, Herbie, Al Foster/Tony Williams and forgot to come back.
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Old 08-27-2003, 05:44 PM   #2
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Re: Where have I been???

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I put on my Parker at Birdland CD after not listening to it for about 5 years and I was suddenly struck.
I couldn't remember that the album is:
McCoy Tyner = Piano
Jimmy Garrison = Bass
Elvin Jones = Drums
Three of my all time favorite players and I couldn't remember they are on this recording.
Man, that's some wicked time diffusion FranciscanMonk.
Whatever it is you've lit up or poured, I want some!
Surely you're citing the October 8th, 1963 Coltrane quartet live venue at Birdland, released on Impulse.
Now Parker with that trio backing him up would have made for some seriously strange music.
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Old 08-28-2003, 06:16 AM   #3
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Oh shit, you're right.

Well I never said I could keep my head right. All you need to do is go sleepless for about 4 years.

I watched fightclub last night and I really identified with the main character
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All you need to do is go sleepless for about 4 years. I watched fightclub last night and I really identified with the main character
I get fairly spaced out just listening to Coltrane, in a good kind of way!
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I don't know how you do for imagining the chords that he is using...
I sit and listen to him and, as he flies all over the register, I imagine the chords he is using and how he manages to take the root chords of his phrases and trurn them into passing phrases.

P.S. I usually wear a seat belt when I listen to him
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I don't know how you do for imagining the chords that he is using...
I sit and listen to him and, as he flies all over the register, I imagine the chords he is using and how he manages to take the root chords of his phrases and trurn them into passing phrases.
P.S. I usually wear a seat belt when I listen to him
By the early 1960s, Coltrane was fast breaking away from normal chord progressions and beginning to explore a much freer approach to sound modulation based on alternate scales. This all seems extremely technical, especially to someone like me who has a minimal notational knowledge of music. However, it makes perfect sense if one remembers Coltrane's roots in R&B as well as Gospel. At this juncture, he often sounds as though he is struggling in pain to find the notes that will carry both him and the listener toward the next set of challenges and opportunities. This effect is, however, usually quite deliberate. And it makes that sensation of tension release - when, suddenly, the resolution of a line of thought/emotion appears with such lightning-like clarity, the notes positively spilling forth almost faster than one is able to keep track of them - all the more intense. The sheer illusion of 'timelessness' he manages to invoke at such moments remains a constant source of surprise. I've listened to much of his recorded work many times over and it practically never fails to sound a different tempo to my ears. Sometimes, I feel as though each and every single note is being slowly etched into my mind. And at other times, I feel as though I'm witnesssing a maelstrom of inpenetrable complexity. Same music! The mystery and mastery of a great artist.
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