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BigOleChet · 02-05-2003, 11:38 AM

Every team used to have one, but I really don't see too many these days. Has the speed and skill required to win today resulted in the loss of these once highly prized players?

Thairlar · 02-05-2003, 11:56 AM

There are plenty out there, although the NHL has worked to reduce fighting in the game by assigning instigator penalties and third man in rules. Luckily the Bruins have a few guys who aren't afraid to go, and even more capable of delivering bone crushing hits. I like a good, physical game.

BigOleChet · 02-05-2003, 01:39 PM

The Wings don't have any goons. Name a few for me.

JBrock · 02-05-2003, 02:42 PM

The Wings don't have your typical goon but Shannahan and McCarty can throw hands pretty well. The big problem is the instigator rule. Guys are afraid of getting tossed and then suspended.

jefslat · 02-05-2003, 03:42 PM

The whole goon thing has died off a lot since the McSorely (sp?) incident, IMO.

madfermaduro · 02-05-2003, 05:11 PM

this thread has me tempted to get my son's Hockey Fight tapes..... he's got about 8 hours of fights from the 50s to the 90s pro and semi pro....

has some of the best of Bob Probert, Joe Kocur, Terry O'Reilly, geez.... it goes on and on.....

plenty o' enjoyment

Thairlar · 02-05-2003, 05:15 PM

Where'd you find the hockey fight tape?

BigOleChet · 02-05-2003, 06:09 PM

Probert and Kocur at least had some skill. Shanahan and McCarty are NOT goons.

A goon is someone like Oliwa (does he still play for NJ?). Goons can barely skate and are sent out to punish and harm other players.

Thairlar · 02-05-2003, 06:33 PM

Actually, Oliwa is now wearing the Black and Gold!

doohnibor · 02-05-2003, 08:01 PM

The days of the Goons are gone. Nowadays teams have instigators/agitators like Maltby and Avery on the Wings, Tyson Nash, Matthew Barnaby and others like them.

Probert, Kocur, Grimsom and Domi are/were some of the best in recent years.

I miss the old days!!!

02-05-2003, 11:38 AM	#1
BigOleChet Club Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muskegon, Michigan Posts: 3,073	Goons Every team used to have one, but I really don't see too many these days. Has the speed and skill required to win today resulted in the loss of these once highly prized players?

02-05-2003, 11:56 AM	#2
Thairlar Club Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Clinton, MA USA Posts: 1,158	There are plenty out there, although the NHL has worked to reduce fighting in the game by assigning instigator penalties and third man in rules. Luckily the Bruins have a few guys who aren't afraid to go, and even more capable of delivering bone crushing hits. I like a good, physical game. __________________ "Society in every state is a blessing, but government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one..." -Thomas Paine

02-05-2003, 02:42 PM	#4
JBrock Club Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: location, location! Posts: 4,989	The Wings don't have your typical goon but Shannahan and McCarty can throw hands pretty well. The big problem is the instigator rule. Guys are afraid of getting tossed and then suspended. __________________ THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE

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02-05-2003, 05:11 PM	#6
madfermaduro Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: between Detroit & Lansing Posts: 802	this thread has me tempted to get my son's Hockey Fight tapes..... he's got about 8 hours of fights from the 50s to the 90s pro and semi pro.... has some of the best of Bob Probert, Joe Kocur, Terry O'Reilly, geez.... it goes on and on..... plenty o' enjoyment __________________ Trust me..... I know what I'm doing©®

02-05-2003, 01:39 PM	#3
BigOleChet Club Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muskegon, Michigan Posts: 3,073	The Wings don't have any goons. Name a few for me.

02-05-2003, 05:15 PM	#7
Thairlar Club Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Clinton, MA USA Posts: 1,158	Where'd you find the hockey fight tape? __________________ "Society in every state is a blessing, but government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one..." -Thomas Paine

02-05-2003, 06:09 PM	#8
BigOleChet Club Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muskegon, Michigan Posts: 3,073	Probert and Kocur at least had some skill. Shanahan and McCarty are NOT goons. A goon is someone like Oliwa (does he still play for NJ?). Goons can barely skate and are sent out to punish and harm other players.

02-05-2003, 06:33 PM	#9
Thairlar Club Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Clinton, MA USA Posts: 1,158	Actually, Oliwa is now wearing the Black and Gold! __________________ "Society in every state is a blessing, but government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one..." -Thomas Paine

02-05-2003, 08:01 PM	#10
doohnibor Club Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,871	The days of the Goons are gone. Nowadays teams have instigators/agitators like Maltby and Avery on the Wings, Tyson Nash, Matthew Barnaby and others like them. Probert, Kocur, Grimsom and Domi are/were some of the best in recent years. I miss the old days!!! __________________ --"Don't smoke good cigars when you can smoke great cigars"