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debaire · 12-16-2005, 01:47 PM

My Dodgers are making all sorts of moves this off season...kinda reminds me of when the NYY went crazy trying to assemble an All-star team. Team chemistry didn't work out too well there...(AFAICT). Hope that doesn't end up happening here. Why do we need another shortstop (Garciappara)?

Big_Al96 · 12-23-2005, 09:20 AM

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Why do we need another shortstop (Garciappara)?

So you can make him a 1st baseman or another position he's never played

Go Giants!!

(although that Steve Finley acquisition totally blows)

FSUScotsman · 12-23-2005, 09:42 AM

Nothing works like bringing 'em up on the farm. The Braves have proved that.

JerseyDevil65 · 12-23-2005, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by FSUScotsman

Nothing works like bringing 'em up on the farm. The Braves have proved that.

The Braves have won 1 World Series and the 2 best pitchers on that team, Smoltz and Maddux, were not home-grown players.

FSUScotsman · 12-23-2005, 12:49 PM

Look at the number of division championships. Look at the numbers of the rest of the team that are farm teamers. Look how many other teams buy, buy, buy and NEVER reach the top of their division.

I'll take what the Braves have. Sure I would have liked a couple of more rings, but the Cubs and White Sox fans plus a lot of others would kill for the Braves success.

Including the Mets.

fvfanmc · 12-23-2005, 12:53 PM

Everybody talks about a farm system. Well, folks, the talent is getting really thin in the farm systems as well. I have never seen so many prospects getting traded as they are now. Plus, many prospects come to the majors and go bust.

The minor leagues are as not productive as they used to be. IMO

JerseyDevil65 · 12-23-2005, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FSUScotsman

Look at the number of division championships. Look at the numbers of the rest of the team that are farm teamers. Look how many other teams buy, buy, buy and NEVER reach the top of their division.

I'll take what the Braves have. Sure I would have liked a couple of more rings, but the Cubs and White Sox fans plus a lot of others would kill for the Braves success.

Including the Mets.

I agree and I respect the Braves as much as anybody. But they make trades and sign free agents too, thats the point I was trying to make.

With all those division titles, its sad they have only one ring to show for it. That team should have won much more.

JerseyDevil65 · 12-23-2005, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fvfanmc

Everybody talks about a farm system. Well, folks, the talent is getting really thin in the farm systems as well. I have never seen so many prospects getting traded as they are now. Plus, many prospects come to the majors and go bust.

The minor leagues are as not productive as they used to be. IMO

Actually the point can be made that farm systems right now are better than ever. There are more teams so there are more players, every player on a major league roster was at one point part of some teams farm system.

FSUScotsman · 12-23-2005, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FSUScotsman

Look at the number of division championships. Look at the numbers of the rest of the team that are farm teamers. Look how many other teams buy, buy, buy and NEVER reach the top of their division.

I'll take what the Braves have. Sure I would have liked a couple of more rings, but the Cubs and White Sox fans plus a lot of others would kill for the Braves success.

Including the Mets.

I agree and I respect the Braves as much as anybody. But they make trades and sign free agents too, thats the point I was trying to make.

With all those division titles, its sad they have only one ring to show for it. That team should have won much more.

I feel the Braves are a snake bit team. They've had great pitching and lost. They've had great hitting and lost. But they DO keep winning that division. Kids have grown UP not knowing anything but the Braves winning that division!!!!

They don't make many trades or free agent buys though. And most of them aren't the headliners that other teams make. Maybe after AOL/Time Warner sells. I HOPE!!!!

fvfanmc · 12-23-2005, 01:15 PM

Yes, they are being brought up. But there aren't as many of the really good prospects as there used to be.

Of course there are the diamond in the roughs (ie.e Robison Cano). But fewer and fewer each year.

The rookie of the year voting has been down to two or three rookies the past few years.

12-16-2005, 01:47 PM	#1
debaire Herf Meister Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oviedo, FL Posts: 5,185	Dodgers My Dodgers are making all sorts of moves this off season...kinda reminds me of when the NYY went crazy trying to assemble an All-star team. Team chemistry didn't work out too well there...(AFAICT). Hope that doesn't end up happening here. Why do we need another shortstop (Garciappara)? __________________ Steve Fine, twist my arm, I'll smoke a cigar. RIP cubano67, knife Full Flavor Federation (FFF) - Charter Member

12-23-2005, 09:42 AM	#3
FSUScotsman Herf God Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tallahassee, FL CSA Posts: 36,585	Nothing works like bringing 'em up on the farm. The Braves have proved that. __________________ "The rights we have today we may consider as natural rights, but they were won by blood, sweat, sacrifice, and death." Dwight D. Eisenhower http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist!!!!

12-23-2005, 12:49 PM	#5
FSUScotsman Herf God Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tallahassee, FL CSA Posts: 36,585	Look at the number of division championships. Look at the numbers of the rest of the team that are farm teamers. Look how many other teams buy, buy, buy and NEVER reach the top of their division. I'll take what the Braves have. Sure I would have liked a couple of more rings, but the Cubs and White Sox fans plus a lot of others would kill for the Braves success. Including the Mets. __________________ "The rights we have today we may consider as natural rights, but they were won by blood, sweat, sacrifice, and death." Dwight D. Eisenhower http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist!!!!

12-23-2005, 12:53 PM	#6
fvfanmc Self Exiled Herf God Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Kearny, NJ Posts: 40,584	Everybody talks about a farm system. Well, folks, the talent is getting really thin in the farm systems as well. I have never seen so many prospects getting traded as they are now. Plus, many prospects come to the majors and go bust. The minor leagues are as not productive as they used to be. IMO

12-23-2005, 01:15 PM	#10
fvfanmc Self Exiled Herf God Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Kearny, NJ Posts: 40,584	Yes, they are being brought up. But there aren't as many of the really good prospects as there used to be. Of course there are the diamond in the roughs (ie.e Robison Cano). But fewer and fewer each year. The rookie of the year voting has been down to two or three rookies the past few years.