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mannish · 04-11-2013, 01:51 PM

I have had draw problems a lot in the past but when they smoke they have been decent

PI especial #2 6 x 46 is 6.95 a 6 pack at holts - I bought a few

bsk · 04-11-2013, 03:41 PM

I was wondering that myself. Every catalog or email special I get seems to be a blow-out of the PI's or Aliados. Apparently unloading A LOT of inventory.

And you're right, the PI #2 is a decent smoke when they draw ok.

gui_tarzan · 04-11-2013, 03:57 PM

They're not all that great so no one buys them? That's my guess, I don't like either of them.

grtrx · 04-11-2013, 04:21 PM

they used to have quite a following, and they sure as heck butted heads with JR. I liked them but didn't like the prices, and didn't much like that the ash seemed to flake off a lot.

WHy discounted? Have they been sold? have they changed who is distributing them? are they having a cash flow problem? did someone big get sideways with them and decide to cut the price to hurt them?

Briandg · 04-11-2013, 04:34 PM

They've always been pretty cheap. They are an independent, so corporate profits aren't included in overhead.

Kick around this scenario. This factory, like every other, is going to produce it's own name brand, and they will also try to sell as much generic product, short filler fumas, store brands, and other second and third and fourth line products as they possibly can. If you sell enough 50 cent fumas,dollar store brands, buck-fifty don fingerling bundles, and so forth, you can sell your top line smokes for a reasonable price.

They have no stellar reputation like CAO or Torano to gather unrealistic prices, and they can afford to sell cheaper since they don't have an entire corporate structure riding on their backs, like macanudo or punch. Essentially, they are the rolling rock brewing company who can make a better than average beer at a price below michelob.

Sort of like LGC. for decades, an LGC cigar cost a lot less than a macanudo.

Rob G · 04-11-2013, 04:36 PM

I've never been a fan.

04-11-2013, 01:51 PM	#1
mannish Herf God Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Springville, AL USA Posts: 15,789	Why are Puros Indios and Aliados so cheap I have had draw problems a lot in the past but when they smoke they have been decent PI especial #2 6 x 46 is 6.95 a 6 pack at holts - I bought a few __________________ “We do not see things as they are, we see them as we are.”

04-11-2013, 03:57 PM	#3
gui_tarzan Herf God Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The 26th state Posts: 28,796	They're not all that great so no one buys them? That's my guess, I don't like either of them. __________________ Jim...<>< The four most dangerous words in the US government: "and for other purposes" I am an AJ Fernandez ho...

04-11-2013, 04:21 PM	#4
grtrx Contributing Editor Herf God Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Naperville IL Posts: 44,532	they used to have quite a following, and they sure as heck butted heads with JR. I liked them but didn't like the prices, and didn't much like that the ash seemed to flake off a lot. WHy discounted? Have they been sold? have they changed who is distributing them? are they having a cash flow problem? did someone big get sideways with them and decide to cut the price to hurt them? __________________ "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Sir Winston Churchill "A sick thought can devour the body's flesh more than fever or consumption." - Guy de Maupassant

04-11-2013, 04:36 PM	#6
Rob G Contributing Editor Herf God Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Camillus, NY Posts: 16,245	I've never been a fan. __________________ Rob If people can tell me where to smoke, I can tell them where to go, too.

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04-11-2013, 03:41 PM	#2
bsk Club Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Now the Sunshine State! Posts: 2,472	I was wondering that myself. Every catalog or email special I get seems to be a blow-out of the PI's or Aliados. Apparently unloading A LOT of inventory. And you're right, the PI #2 is a decent smoke when they draw ok.

04-11-2013, 04:34 PM	#5
Briandg CW Squirrel Wrangler Herf God Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: southwest Missouri Posts: 35,718	They've always been pretty cheap. They are an independent, so corporate profits aren't included in overhead. Kick around this scenario. This factory, like every other, is going to produce it's own name brand, and they will also try to sell as much generic product, short filler fumas, store brands, and other second and third and fourth line products as they possibly can. If you sell enough 50 cent fumas,dollar store brands, buck-fifty don fingerling bundles, and so forth, you can sell your top line smokes for a reasonable price. They have no stellar reputation like CAO or Torano to gather unrealistic prices, and they can afford to sell cheaper since they don't have an entire corporate structure riding on their backs, like macanudo or punch. Essentially, they are the rolling rock brewing company who can make a better than average beer at a price below michelob. Sort of like LGC. for decades, an LGC cigar cost a lot less than a macanudo.