Go Back   Cigar Weekly Community Forums and Discussion Groups > Community Centers > I'll Drink to That!

I'll Drink to That! What is your favorite beverage to have with a cigar? Juice? Cola? Beer? Port? Single Malt Scotch? This room is for the discussion of beverages, especially alcoholic beverages that go well with cigars!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-20-2010, 04:18 AM   #1
Black Plague
Herf Meister
 
Black Plague's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Southern Indiana
Posts: 7,650
Aging beer

I'm just starting to get into this and I was shocked that there are only a few threads here on aging beer (Mofo's and Bigjohn's thread on Chimay is very good: http://forums.cigarweekly.com/showth...ght=aging+beer )

So John and others here that age beers, I'd love to see a big discussion on this and for this thread to become a repository on beer cellaring knowledge (a la the Common Coffee Conundrums thread).

So spill the beans. What sort of beers can and cannot be aged? Do you leave them standing up or on their side? Where in your place do you cellar them and how do you get the proper environment for it (with or without a basement)? How long should you age? Any other tips or tricks?


In the words of Michael Myers playing Linda Richman when she gets verklempt: "Discuss!"
Black Plague is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2010, 05:26 AM   #2
vernonator
Herf Meister
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Is this Heaven? No it's Iowa
Posts: 5,312
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Plague View Post
I'm just starting to get into this and I was shocked that there are only a few threads here on aging beer (Mofo's and Bigjohn's thread on Chimay is very good: http://forums.cigarweekly.com/showth...ght=aging+beer )

So John and others here that age beers, I'd love to see a big discussion on this and for this thread to become a repository on beer cellaring knowledge (a la the Common Coffee Conundrums thread).

So spill the beans. What sort of beers can and cannot be aged? Do you leave them standing up or on their side? Where in your place do you cellar them and how do you get the proper environment for it (with or without a basement)? How long should you age? Any other tips or tricks?


In the words of Michael Myers playing Linda Richman when she gets verklempt: "Discuss!"
I age beers quite a bit - mainly big beers - barley wines, Russian Imperial Stouts, old ales, etc. Age in a cool (not cold) dark space standing up (on side if its a corked beer). I have a a few Thomas Hardy ales from the mid-90's, drank one Christmas Eve (a '94 I believe) and ohhh my was it good, had the qualities of a good brandy.....
__________________
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile
vernonator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2010, 05:44 AM   #3
avid toker
Club Member
 
avid toker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Somewhere out there!
Posts: 1,991
I age everything, generally the higher the alcohol, the longer it sits. Everything ages standing up in a cool, humid, dark and stable environment. I don't age my bottles sideways due to the risk of corking. Besides, newer corks are less impermeable and therefore lowers the risk of shrinkage.

I've aged bourbon stouts, imperial stouts, porter, DIPA's, barleywine, Belgians, various bottle conditioned beers, Lambics, etc. I've found DFH 120min can withstand a few years. DIPA's I generally drink within 2 yrs. Thomas Hardy can definitely last 20+yrs. I've got Hair of the Dog Fred aging as well as some Gale's Prize Old Ale that's been sheltered for 5yrs. Really, the best part about aging beers is experimenting yourself.
__________________
Most people hate the taste of beer - to begin with. It is, however, a prejudice that many people have been able to overcome. - Winston Churchill
avid toker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2010, 08:26 AM   #4
Stevo
Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 1,295
I think that is indeed correct from what I have been told - the higher the alcohol content, the longer a beer can age. I have to admit, though - with cigars, I kind of need a nice day (and time) to smoke one, so they often sit for a while.

Beer you can drink right now! Like right now! Indoors. Now.

My beer doesn't make it more than a day or two.
__________________
Resident nutjob.
Stevo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2010, 09:46 AM   #5
Jester
Contributing Editor
Club Member
 
Jester's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Saint Pete Fl/Montgomery Al
Posts: 4,017


When I was brewing it was like that. Always trying to clear enough bottles for the next batch.

It got too wierd so I stopped.

I did however put together a nice raspberry mead that was good at breakfast.

Best,
J.
__________________
A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. - Samuel Adams, 1779
Jester is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2010, 10:29 AM   #6
SmoKerch
Herf God
 
SmoKerch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Indiana
Posts: 23,602
Re: homebrew beers

Between testing gravities and sampling to see how bottle conditioning is progressing, I never have anything left to age.
__________________
Kercheval Bros. LLP
Professional Procrastination Consultants
1 - (900) - GO# - SAND

The Great State of Confusion

Just because I may be paranoid, it doesn't mean there aren't people out there trying to get me.

Visit us on The Facebook: Kercheval Bros. Procrastination Consultants !

Galatians 5:24 - NLT
SmoKerch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2010, 04:34 AM   #7
Black Plague
Herf Meister
 
Black Plague's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Southern Indiana
Posts: 7,650
Ok, there's all sorts of pro vs.con argument that goes back and forth between beer snobs about storing beer upright or on its side, especially corked beers.

But what about this...I've seen some wine fridges allow you to tilt the racks and store at a ~45-degree angle. What's the thought on that?
Black Plague is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2010, 10:07 AM   #8
avid toker
Club Member
 
avid toker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Somewhere out there!
Posts: 1,991
Just revisited a Dark Lord I had stored from a few years ago. Held up nicely.

As far as the 45 degrees, don't overcomplicate it. The beers simply need stability.
__________________
Most people hate the taste of beer - to begin with. It is, however, a prejudice that many people have been able to overcome. - Winston Churchill
avid toker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2010, 06:51 AM   #9
vernonator
Herf Meister
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Is this Heaven? No it's Iowa
Posts: 5,312
Quote:
Originally Posted by avid toker View Post
Just revisited a Dark Lord I had stored from a few years ago. Held up nicely.

As far as the 45 degrees, don't overcomplicate it. The beers simply need stability.
I agree...my "beer vault" is couple of old Bud boxes - the old wax covered long neck ones that hinge on the top. They are in the basement back in a corner on a shelf. Stays in the mid 60's all the time..KISS
__________________
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile
vernonator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2010, 09:22 AM   #10
Black Plague
Herf Meister
 
Black Plague's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Southern Indiana
Posts: 7,650
Unfortunately, I don't have a basement and the house me and the fiancee are putting an offer on this week (pray for us) doesn't have one either. Can't get anywhere colder than 70 degrees with my woman in the house, so I think I'm going to spring for a Vinotemp Eco (thermoelectric). The 48-bottle one is cheaper than their regular compressor units, plus its more energy efficient and no vibration. I seems like anywhere between 50 and 65 degrees is just fine for most beer and wine, as long as it stays relatively steady.

Can't wait to lay down a case of Chimay Blue!
Black Plague is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Aging beer? sm.scoles I'll Drink to That! 63 05-03-2005 09:08 AM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:38 PM.