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Natgolfer · 03-24-2002, 02:46 PM

I'm talking about sites where you can tune into various radio stations or site that provide multiple channels of different types of music. I'd like a little background music while I surf or work. Any suggestions?

"War does not determine who is right, war determines who is left"

Churchill98 · 03-24-2002, 05:20 PM

http://www.live365.com/home/index.live

about:blankhttp://genres.mp3.com/music/latin/cuban/

Poohdvm · 03-25-2002, 04:35 PM

Yahoo has their radio station area broken down into genre. Sorry I am too stupid to post a link. Go to yahoo and click on the radio link in their entertainment section. Radio margaritaville is a good station to listen to at lunch. Buffet music and much more. Good background music for work that probably won't insult anyone w/o playing Celene Dion or Barly Man-enough. You will find it at www.margaritaville.com

Natgolfer · 03-26-2002, 02:19 AM

Thanks for the tips

"War does not determine who is right, war determines who is left"

NiceAsh · 03-26-2002, 04:52 PM

This is what I use at work

http://www.musicmatch.com/

The RadioMX, it is $3.33 per month, good quality and pretty much every type of music you would want

"A fine cigar is just like a woman. If you don't light it up just right and suck on it with a certain frequency, it will go out on you."

Natgolfer · 03-26-2002, 08:02 PM

I found a good one:

http://www.cyberradio2000.com/rockhome.htm#"

Lots of choices there.

"War does not determine who is right, war determines who is left"

NiceAsh · 03-26-2002, 08:35 PM

cool, I am trying it out in my vegas office, so far so good

thanks

"A fine cigar is just like a woman. If you don't light it up just right and suck on it with a certain frequency, it will go out on you."

markk · 03-26-2002, 09:56 PM

For bluegrass and acoustic music: www.wdvx.com

Smokestack Jack · 03-31-2002, 08:01 PM

For a mixture of Cajun and Zydeco music, check out www.KBON.com
Heeeyeeeee!

SSJ...I'm good at what I do. What is it that I do again?!!!

westsideelectric · 04-03-2002, 08:48 PM

Here's a little gossip through the grapevine for internet radio fans.
ADIOS, INTERNET RADIO

-- By Chris Gonsalves --

I'm a fan of Stardog, personally. Maybe you like CelticGrove or BlueCityJazz. Doesn't matter. In a few weeks, listening to music on Internet radio will be dead as a mackerel.
Shame really. The Internet radio business has been growing at something like 100 percent annually and is thriving in genres underrepresented on FM stations, such as classical,blues, jazz and gospel. Doesn't matter. The government,acting once again in the special interest of the music industry, is about to crush the idea.
In the latest example of groundless regulation and greed interfering with free commerce, the U.S. Copyright Office is
considering a proposal that would force Internet radio stations to pay exorbitant royalties to record companies and performers, something their over-the-air counterparts are not required to do.
Where AM and FM radio stations pay a small fee to music composers, Internet radio stations are facing fees of up to
14 cents per listener per song. That fee would bankrupt nearly all of the Web broadcasters operating today,according to the group saveinternetradio.org. Copyright officials have until May 21 to make the call, but considering that the recommended shakedown came from the advisory group they created--the Copyright Arbitration Royalty Panel (CARP for short)--it's clear the rubber stamp is warmed up and waiting.
How did we get to this point? Even if you thought Napster and others of their ilk were the bad guys, how did Internet radio become to the target of the Harry Fox crowd? It began in October 1998, when Congress passed the "Digital Millennium Copyright Act" (DMCA), which gave record companies the green light to collect royalties when music
was played via "digital media" such as Internet radio. It's an interesting departure from a music industry
standpoint. Record companies and performers don't get royalties from AM and FM radio play because the copyright folks consider the promotional value of the airplay payment
enough. So why the switch for the Internet? The theory bought by Congress is that Internet listeners can make "perfect copies" of the songs being streamed, and those
copies could hurt CD sales. That would be a good argument,except that, as anyone who listens to Internet Radio knows,you can't make "perfect copies." You can't easily make
copies at all. And if you can, they are of too low a sound quality to be useful in creating your own CDs. What you get sounds pretty much like those cassette tapes you used to make off the FM radio. Not great.
Never ones to let facts stand in their way, the solons assigned to the CARP published their recommended royalty schedule in late February. As the basis for the outrageous
fee schedule, the CARP report cites a $5 billion deal between Yahoo! and Broadcast.com. The result was a figure that would leave most Internet broadcasters, who have attracted precious little advertising, liable for between 200 and 300 percent of their gross revenues. And, oh, by the way, the fees are retroactive to October 1998. According to Internet radio industry figures, a midsize independent Webcaster with an average audience of 1,000 would owe
$525,600.
See you later Stardog. It was nice knowing you.

03-24-2002, 02:46 PM	#1
Natgolfer Club Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: #14, 559 yard par 5, lying 1, right side of fairway, 242 yards out, taking a leak behind an oak tree Posts: 3,370	I'm talking about sites where you can tune into various radio stations or site that provide multiple channels of different types of music. I'd like a little background music while I surf or work. Any suggestions? "War does not determine who is right, war determines who is left" __________________ We don't have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven't taxed enough, we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. - Ronald Reagan

03-24-2002, 05:20 PM	#2
Churchill98 Club Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: The Republic of Texas, USA Posts: 1,382	http://www.live365.com/home/index.live about:blankhttp://genres.mp3.com/music/latin/cuban/ __________________ "Children are the living messages we send to a time we will not see." - Thomas Paine

03-25-2002, 04:35 PM	#3
Poohdvm Club Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Benton, AR Posts: 3,385	Yahoo has their radio station area broken down into genre. Sorry I am too stupid to post a link. Go to yahoo and click on the radio link in their entertainment section. Radio margaritaville is a good station to listen to at lunch. Buffet music and much more. Good background music for work that probably won't insult anyone w/o playing Celene Dion or Barly Man-enough. You will find it at www.margaritaville.com __________________ We are the people our parents warned us about! F F F (nuff said)

03-26-2002, 02:19 AM	#4
Natgolfer Club Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: #14, 559 yard par 5, lying 1, right side of fairway, 242 yards out, taking a leak behind an oak tree Posts: 3,370	Thanks for the tips "War does not determine who is right, war determines who is left" __________________ We don't have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven't taxed enough, we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. - Ronald Reagan

03-26-2002, 04:52 PM	#5
NiceAsh Owner Emeritus Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Salem, OR USA Posts: 4,593	This is what I use at work http://www.musicmatch.com/ The RadioMX, it is $3.33 per month, good quality and pretty much every type of music you would want "A fine cigar is just like a woman. If you don't light it up just right and suck on it with a certain frequency, it will go out on you." __________________ Keyboard warriors are easily defeated when there is no battle

03-26-2002, 08:02 PM	#6
Natgolfer Club Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: #14, 559 yard par 5, lying 1, right side of fairway, 242 yards out, taking a leak behind an oak tree Posts: 3,370	I found a good one: http://www.cyberradio2000.com/rockhome.htm#" Lots of choices there. "War does not determine who is right, war determines who is left" __________________ We don't have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven't taxed enough, we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. - Ronald Reagan

03-26-2002, 08:35 PM	#7
NiceAsh Owner Emeritus Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Salem, OR USA Posts: 4,593	cool, I am trying it out in my vegas office, so far so good thanks "A fine cigar is just like a woman. If you don't light it up just right and suck on it with a certain frequency, it will go out on you." __________________ Keyboard warriors are easily defeated when there is no battle

03-26-2002, 09:56 PM	#8
markk Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Havana, Cuba Posts: 374	For bluegrass and acoustic music: www.wdvx.com

03-31-2002, 08:01 PM	#9
Smokestack Jack Herf God Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Warsaw, Mo. 65355 Posts: 13,366	For a mixture of Cajun and Zydeco music, check out www.KBON.com Heeeyeeeee! SSJ...I'm good at what I do. What is it that I do again?!!! __________________ *SSJ... Herfin' in the Heartland* I can't help it, I have an excuse. What was that excuse again?

04-03-2002, 08:48 PM	#10
westsideelectric Club Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 3,845	Here's a little gossip through the grapevine for internet radio fans. ADIOS, INTERNET RADIO -- By Chris Gonsalves -- I'm a fan of Stardog, personally. Maybe you like CelticGrove or BlueCityJazz. Doesn't matter. In a few weeks, listening to music on Internet radio will be dead as a mackerel. Shame really. The Internet radio business has been growing at something like 100 percent annually and is thriving in genres underrepresented on FM stations, such as classical,blues, jazz and gospel. Doesn't matter. The government,acting once again in the special interest of the music industry, is about to crush the idea. In the latest example of groundless regulation and greed interfering with free commerce, the U.S. Copyright Office is considering a proposal that would force Internet radio stations to pay exorbitant royalties to record companies and performers, something their over-the-air counterparts are not required to do. Where AM and FM radio stations pay a small fee to music composers, Internet radio stations are facing fees of up to 14 cents per listener per song. That fee would bankrupt nearly all of the Web broadcasters operating today,according to the group saveinternetradio.org. Copyright officials have until May 21 to make the call, but considering that the recommended shakedown came from the advisory group they created--the Copyright Arbitration Royalty Panel (CARP for short)--it's clear the rubber stamp is warmed up and waiting. How did we get to this point? Even if you thought Napster and others of their ilk were the bad guys, how did Internet radio become to the target of the Harry Fox crowd? It began in October 1998, when Congress passed the "Digital Millennium Copyright Act" (DMCA), which gave record companies the green light to collect royalties when music was played via "digital media" such as Internet radio. It's an interesting departure from a music industry standpoint. Record companies and performers don't get royalties from AM and FM radio play because the copyright folks consider the promotional value of the airplay payment enough. So why the switch for the Internet? The theory bought by Congress is that Internet listeners can make "perfect copies" of the songs being streamed, and those copies could hurt CD sales. That would be a good argument,except that, as anyone who listens to Internet Radio knows,you can't make "perfect copies." You can't easily make copies at all. And if you can, they are of too low a sound quality to be useful in creating your own CDs. What you get sounds pretty much like those cassette tapes you used to make off the FM radio. Not great. Never ones to let facts stand in their way, the solons assigned to the CARP published their recommended royalty schedule in late February. As the basis for the outrageous fee schedule, the CARP report cites a $5 billion deal between Yahoo! and Broadcast.com. The result was a figure that would leave most Internet broadcasters, who have attracted precious little advertising, liable for between 200 and 300 percent of their gross revenues. And, oh, by the way, the fees are retroactive to October 1998. According to Internet radio industry figures, a midsize independent Webcaster with an average audience of 1,000 would owe $525,600. See you later Stardog. It was nice knowing you. __________________ RIP TOJE & IBMer