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gui_tarzan · 05-11-2013, 05:04 PM

Brian sent me a bunch of cigars a while back and asked that I do a side-by-side test between these two cigars. I've actually heard a few good things about the FdB and was surprised at the outcome.

Appearance

Warlock: Medium in color, bumpy roll, slightly veiny, firm, slightly vegetable aroma.

It wasn't as red in color as the description on CI suggested for a Cubano wrapper, but more medium brown like a Cameroon wrapper would be. What surprised me was the very uneven roll. It was veiny and had high & low spots in the diameter.

Flor de Baloney:

Med-dark wrapper, even roll, some firm spots but no spongy spots, very fine veins, tobacco aroma.

This actually looked and felt much better than the Warlock. The construction seemed to be at a much higher level, certainly higher than a typical discount brand.

Pre-light Draw

Warlock: Smooth, medium draw. I had no trouble drawing through this cigar from start to finish.

FdB: Smooth, medium-light draw, not like a straw though. This also stayed consistent from start to finish.

First Light

Warlock: Mossy flavor, medium strength, no pepper. This wasn't impressive, but I did get the impression that the boldness would last throughout the smoke.

FdB: Mild tobacco flavor, a hint of Man 'O War flavor at first, no pepper, very smooth.

Burn

Warlock: This did not require much at all in the way of touch-ups, it burned fairly consistently throughout.

FdB: Only one touch-up required, it also burned fairly consistently.

Smoke

Warlock: Lots! I enjoy cigars that billow smoke and this one satisfied me greatly.

FdB: Decent, not a lot. I was hoping for more and didn't get it.

Ash

Warlock: Light grey, uneven. It didn't hold together at all, kept flaking off in little pieces.

FdB: Medium-light grey, mottled. This was more even and held together longer.

Flavor Profile

Warlock: A true disappointment. It was very grassy and never changed.

FdB: Plain old tobacco after the initial light. When I tasted a hint of the MoW flavor I enjoy I was really hoping for more but it fell off quickly and was very unremarkable. Not bad, just nothing special and one-dimensioned.

Conclusion:

Warlock: I've had one previously and wasn't impressed with that one either. This is a cigar I won't be purchasing in the future.

FdB: I was surprised at the quality level of this cigar. I believe it to be in the "yard-gar" category but on the upper end of that ranking.

Thanks, Brian, for allowing me to compare these!

tchapchap · 05-12-2013, 04:33 AM

Thanks for the reviews Jim!

Always wondered about the FdB.

Rob G · 05-12-2013, 05:36 AM

Nice reviews.

Briandg · 05-12-2013, 01:55 PM

After Charlie sheen went all warlock on us, I couldn't help laughing every time I saw a warlock ad. The contrast and compare with FDB and warlock was a natural. I figured that warlock would be a decent smoke, but who knew if it was a good one or just more baloney?

I've been liking the FDB. They are inconsistent, one is really good, the next meh. I paid 36 for the bundles of 25, and they are much like connies. decent villazon smokes with an occasionally better than good one.

Briandg · 05-12-2013, 01:56 PM

thanks for the reviews, Jim!

KatDad · 05-13-2013, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Briandg

I've been liking the FDB. They are inconsistent, one is really good, the next meh. I paid 36 for the bundles of 25, and they are much like connies. decent villazon smokes with an occasionally better than good one.

IMO for all intents and purposes the FDB are/were Connies.

Briandg · 05-14-2013, 05:07 AM

yes, connies. Lew said that the torps were punch grand cru; I don't think that the batch I got were, because they just don't match upbut they were almost certainly punch. At $36 a bundle on closeout, there's no doubt that they were the best bargain I've ever found, regarding taste, construction, and all around smoking pleasure.

Like I said at the time, $60 is a hard price to swallow on an unproven cigar, but once they went on clearance, it was a no brainer. No matter what, you would have wound up with a quality villazon smoke at a little over $1.25.

05-11-2013, 05:04 PM	#1
gui_tarzan Herf God Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The 26th state Posts: 28,796	Warlock vs Flor de Baloney Brian sent me a bunch of cigars a while back and asked that I do a side-by-side test between these two cigars. I've actually heard a few good things about the FdB and was surprised at the outcome. Appearance Warlock: Medium in color, bumpy roll, slightly veiny, firm, slightly vegetable aroma. It wasn't as red in color as the description on CI suggested for a Cubano wrapper, but more medium brown like a Cameroon wrapper would be. What surprised me was the very uneven roll. It was veiny and had high & low spots in the diameter. Flor de Baloney: Med-dark wrapper, even roll, some firm spots but no spongy spots, very fine veins, tobacco aroma. This actually looked and felt much better than the Warlock. The construction seemed to be at a much higher level, certainly higher than a typical discount brand. Pre-light Draw Warlock: Smooth, medium draw. I had no trouble drawing through this cigar from start to finish. FdB: Smooth, medium-light draw, not like a straw though. This also stayed consistent from start to finish. First Light Warlock: Mossy flavor, medium strength, no pepper. This wasn't impressive, but I did get the impression that the boldness would last throughout the smoke. FdB: Mild tobacco flavor, a hint of Man 'O War flavor at first, no pepper, very smooth. Burn Warlock: This did not require much at all in the way of touch-ups, it burned fairly consistently throughout. FdB: Only one touch-up required, it also burned fairly consistently. Smoke Warlock: Lots! I enjoy cigars that billow smoke and this one satisfied me greatly. FdB: Decent, not a lot. I was hoping for more and didn't get it. Ash Warlock: Light grey, uneven. It didn't hold together at all, kept flaking off in little pieces. FdB: Medium-light grey, mottled. This was more even and held together longer. Flavor Profile Warlock: A true disappointment. It was very grassy and never changed. FdB: Plain old tobacco after the initial light. When I tasted a hint of the MoW flavor I enjoy I was really hoping for more but it fell off quickly and was very unremarkable. Not bad, just nothing special and one-dimensioned. Conclusion: Warlock: I've had one previously and wasn't impressed with that one either. This is a cigar I won't be purchasing in the future. FdB: I was surprised at the quality level of this cigar. I believe it to be in the "yard-gar" category but on the upper end of that ranking. Thanks, Brian, for allowing me to compare these! __________________ Jim...<>< The four most dangerous words in the US government: "and for other purposes" I am an AJ Fernandez ho...

05-12-2013, 04:33 AM	#2
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05-12-2013, 05:36 AM	#3
Rob G Contributing Editor Herf God Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Camillus, NY Posts: 16,119	Nice reviews. __________________ Rob If people can tell me where to smoke, I can tell them where to go, too.

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05-12-2013, 01:55 PM	#4
Briandg CW Squirrel Wrangler Herf God Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: southwest Missouri Posts: 35,518	After Charlie sheen went all warlock on us, I couldn't help laughing every time I saw a warlock ad. The contrast and compare with FDB and warlock was a natural. I figured that warlock would be a decent smoke, but who knew if it was a good one or just more baloney? I've been liking the FDB. They are inconsistent, one is really good, the next meh. I paid 36 for the bundles of 25, and they are much like connies. decent villazon smokes with an occasionally better than good one.

05-12-2013, 01:56 PM	#5
Briandg CW Squirrel Wrangler Herf God Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: southwest Missouri Posts: 35,518	thanks for the reviews, Jim!

05-14-2013, 05:07 AM	#7
Briandg CW Squirrel Wrangler Herf God Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: southwest Missouri Posts: 35,518	yes, connies. Lew said that the torps were punch grand cru; I don't think that the batch I got were, because they just don't match upbut they were almost certainly punch. At $36 a bundle on closeout, there's no doubt that they were the best bargain I've ever found, regarding taste, construction, and all around smoking pleasure. Like I said at the time, $60 is a hard price to swallow on an unproven cigar, but once they went on clearance, it was a no brainer. No matter what, you would have wound up with a quality villazon smoke at a little over $1.25.