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Rob G · 07-01-2016, 07:19 AM

TommyBB · 07-01-2016, 11:20 AM

It is, especially considering to whom they've been sold.

Halfwheel was reporting, erroneously, two weeks ago or more, that it was to General.

J. Cortès is the firm, and they're a smallish, family-owned, firm which makes medium filler cigars.

Smokestack Jack · 07-01-2016, 01:43 PM

"The main goal in the U.S. is to keep Oliva to the level where they are, and really make their brands even stronger than they are. You have to make sure nothing changes."
"Oliva Cigars is a fantastic, well-run business with strong brands and plenty of future opportunities. This acquisition allows us to further strengthen both businesses' strategy and to stay focused on brands, people and dedication to great products for cigar lovers," said Vandermarliere.

I hope this is true. I would quit smoking if Oliva cigars changed their "recipes".

Briandg · 07-01-2016, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyBB

It is, especially considering to whom they've been sold.

Halfwheel was reporting, erroneously, two weeks ago or more, that it was to General.

J. Cortès is the firm, and they're a smallish, family-owned, firm which makes medium filler cigars.

That doesn't bode well. Olivia was a champion and it appears that they sold to a mid level maker of bundles. I'm sure that the current staff of Olivia will retain control for many years, because it is obvious that this group will have little or no expertise in premium cigar manufacturing, unless they have many secrets.

CSMAnderson · 07-02-2016, 10:51 AM

Torano, now Oliva who's next? Maybe Perdomo?

TommyBB · 07-04-2016, 02:33 PM

Difference is that Toraño was sold to General. This company is NOT General.

Briandg · 07-05-2016, 02:43 AM

General has done great things with let a Gloria and cal. The products have remained good, the brands have grown, the whole company seems to be thriving.

Altars, however, seems to have taken a tip from gurkha. I don't even want to try counting all of the sub-brands that montecristo has now. Every few years, both Romeo and upland come out with something different and very costly, but that's pretty normal. It bothers me that every few months a new montecristo comes out that costs twenty a stick.

TommyBB · 07-06-2016, 07:30 AM

Took me a minute there, Bri.

Altadis.....H. Upmann....

DAMNED auto-correct.

grtrx · 07-06-2016, 08:10 PM

a lot of these owners who are selling may be cashing out while they can

I thought I heard Torano was going back to work for the brand but I may have that way wrong

Rob G · 07-07-2016, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grtrx

a lot of these owners who are selling may be cashing out while they can

I think there is some definite truth to that. And it's not just in relation to the new FDA regulations. There comes a point, especially when one is older, that it makes sense to sell. Who can blame them?

07-01-2016, 07:19 AM	#1
Rob G Contributing Editor Herf God Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Camillus, NY Posts: 16,119	Oliva has been sold Interesting . . . __________________ Rob If people can tell me where to smoke, I can tell them where to go, too.

07-01-2016, 11:20 AM	#2
TommyBB Editor-in-Chief Herf God Join Date: Aug 1998 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 86,650	It is, especially considering to whom they've been sold. Halfwheel was reporting, erroneously, two weeks ago or more, that it was to General. J. Cortès is the firm, and they're a smallish, family-owned, firm which makes medium filler cigars. __________________ +In Memory of E.Guevara(Cubano67)W.Orlando(Shadow) A.Morris (Knife) D.Odom (dodom) D.Revermann (dgr) S.Bouchard (sb1396) M.Cole (Matt76) S.Faccenda (TOJE) R.Smith(IBMer) V.Vandermeer (van55)M.Davis(boxdoctor)S.Singer(bassman)K.Doetze l (drillrk1)D.Hart(garme1962)J.Coleman(John C 81)T.Gossett(Dartplayer1)J.Bolt (jb)E.J.Ferralles(CaballoPinto)M.Cataldo(FVFanMC)K Payne(SanchoPanza)F.Seltzer(Mowee)+LB+Connor Olson+Micah Kercheval+Maggie Bonefas+Karen

07-01-2016, 01:43 PM	#3
Smokestack Jack Herf God Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Warsaw, Mo. 65355 Posts: 13,366	"The main goal in the U.S. is to keep Oliva to the level where they are, and really make their brands even stronger than they are. You have to make sure nothing changes." "Oliva Cigars is a fantastic, well-run business with strong brands and plenty of future opportunities. This acquisition allows us to further strengthen both businesses' strategy and to stay focused on brands, people and dedication to great products for cigar lovers," said Vandermarliere. I hope this is true. I would quit smoking if Oliva cigars changed their "recipes". __________________ *SSJ... Herfin' in the Heartland* I can't help it, I have an excuse. What was that excuse again?

07-04-2016, 02:33 PM	#6
TommyBB Editor-in-Chief Herf God Join Date: Aug 1998 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 86,650	Difference is that Toraño was sold to General. This company is NOT General. __________________ +In Memory of E.Guevara(Cubano67)W.Orlando(Shadow) A.Morris (Knife) D.Odom (dodom) D.Revermann (dgr) S.Bouchard (sb1396) M.Cole (Matt76) S.Faccenda (TOJE) R.Smith(IBMer) V.Vandermeer (van55)M.Davis(boxdoctor)S.Singer(bassman)K.Doetze l (drillrk1)D.Hart(garme1962)J.Coleman(John C 81)T.Gossett(Dartplayer1)J.Bolt (jb)E.J.Ferralles(CaballoPinto)M.Cataldo(FVFanMC)K Payne(SanchoPanza)F.Seltzer(Mowee)+LB+Connor Olson+Micah Kercheval+Maggie Bonefas+Karen

07-06-2016, 07:30 AM	#8
TommyBB Editor-in-Chief Herf God Join Date: Aug 1998 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 86,650	Took me a minute there, Bri. Altadis.....H. Upmann.... DAMNED auto-correct. __________________ +In Memory of E.Guevara(Cubano67)W.Orlando(Shadow) A.Morris (Knife) D.Odom (dodom) D.Revermann (dgr) S.Bouchard (sb1396) M.Cole (Matt76) S.Faccenda (TOJE) R.Smith(IBMer) V.Vandermeer (van55)M.Davis(boxdoctor)S.Singer(bassman)K.Doetze l (drillrk1)D.Hart(garme1962)J.Coleman(John C 81)T.Gossett(Dartplayer1)J.Bolt (jb)E.J.Ferralles(CaballoPinto)M.Cataldo(FVFanMC)K Payne(SanchoPanza)F.Seltzer(Mowee)+LB+Connor Olson+Micah Kercheval+Maggie Bonefas+Karen

07-02-2016, 10:51 AM	#5
CSMAnderson Herf God Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 16,342	Torano, now Oliva who's next? Maybe Perdomo?

07-05-2016, 02:43 AM	#7
Briandg CW Squirrel Wrangler Herf God Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: southwest Missouri Posts: 35,518	General has done great things with let a Gloria and cal. The products have remained good, the brands have grown, the whole company seems to be thriving. Altars, however, seems to have taken a tip from gurkha. I don't even want to try counting all of the sub-brands that montecristo has now. Every few years, both Romeo and upland come out with something different and very costly, but that's pretty normal. It bothers me that every few months a new montecristo comes out that costs twenty a stick.

07-06-2016, 08:10 PM	#9
grtrx Contributing Editor Herf God Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Naperville IL Posts: 44,579	a lot of these owners who are selling may be cashing out while they can I thought I heard Torano was going back to work for the brand but I may have that way wrong __________________ "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." - Sir Winston Churchill "A sick thought can devour the body's flesh more than fever or consumption." - Guy de Maupassant

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