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Old 06-01-2010, 10:56 AM   #1
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Finally found a good red wine

Most of them are way too dry for me. I don't like dry. We had a cookout last Saturday and my wife's cousin had some called "First Tibor" 2007, Hajos-Baja, Blaufrankisch. She said it's only available to the US online. OMG what a great tasting wine! It was on the verge of being sweet but not sugary sweet, more like a good maduro cigar sweet. I can't find it online but she said she would get me a bottle when she orders more.

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Old 06-02-2010, 06:07 AM   #2
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You might enjoy an Australian shiraz...plummy, velvety and quite swallowable no matter what the occasion. (and do not pay more than $10.00)
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:38 AM   #3
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You might enjoy an Australian shiraz...
Good advice here.

As well, many of the less expensive Barossa Valley Cabernets and Shirazes (also from Australia) tend toward more open and forward, ripe, fruit-driven flavours.
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:26 AM   #4
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I think you are looking for this



http://www.vinolist.com/wine/2007-Mo...ed-965500.html


they come from these types of parties

http://winesforhumanity.com/
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Old 06-02-2010, 10:30 AM   #5
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Yes! That's the one. Oh my gosh is it good... I'm salivating just sitting here thinking about it.
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Old 06-06-2010, 06:13 PM   #6
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Next question, can anyone suggest a red that tastes like this one? I can't find it anywhere online, even with the charity program Plush linked.

I'll do my best to describe it:

Not dry at all
No bitterness
Slightly sweet & fruity flavor - not sugary, more like a maduro-sweet
More grape flavor than typical but not Concord-ish
Possibly a touch of apple or pear
Very smooth
Very deep red in color
Very light on the taste buds
It's got 10.5% alcohol but you can't taste much of the alcohol in this one
Fruity, not floral aroma

[edit] Here's what a website says about the 2006 version:

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2006 Reichsgraf Von Ingelheim, Furst Tibor, Muskat-Ottonel, Nagyrede, Hunagry- Fine aromas of fruit and floral scents entice the nose. The intensive scent of roses combined with a hint of apricot and delicate aromas of lavender are also present. The taste of this Muscat-Ottonel is elegant and appealing. The precious sweetness supports its fruity and harmonious character. Classically, you can enjoy this wine with blue chesse. Roquefort, gorgonzola or bleu d'Auvergne all delight in its company. The bitter-sweet under-lying flavor of the cheese harmonizes perfectly with the aromas and sweetness of the wine.
No wonder I liked it with the cheese I had. I wasn't too far off, pears/apricots...
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Old 06-06-2010, 06:14 PM   #7
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Good advice here.

As well, many of the less expensive Barossa Valley Cabernets and Shirazes (also from Australia) tend toward more open and forward, ripe, fruit-driven flavours.
I will give that a try but price isn't as important as taste.
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Old 06-08-2010, 07:57 AM   #8
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I like the Italian reds, especially from the Barbera region. Restaurant that we frequent gets me a case for the cooler every month or so. Was in Chicago over the past weekend for a funeral and ate at Ditka's in Oak Brook. He has his own brand of wine now also. Tried the pinot noir and it was very good. $55 a bottle.......

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Old 06-08-2010, 09:29 AM   #9
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I like the Italian reds, especially from the Barbera region.
The traditional area for making wine from the Barbera grape is the Piedmont region of north-central Italy. Here though, the Nebbiolo grape reigns, producing two notable wines of distinction - Barbaresco and Barolo. Both of these wines are normally quite tannic, requiring bottle maturation to show at their best. They have often been described as exhibiting 'tar and roses' characteristics on the nose/palate. A good Barbaresco or Barolo is hard to beat, but the expense is, unfortunately, a definite consideration. The more reputable examples can put a serious dent in your wallet!

So what do the Piedmontese drink on more 'casual' occasions? Mostly Dolcetto and Barbara. Traditionally, these wines lessen the tannic quotient (compared to Barbaresco and Barolo), with the balancing of the ripe fruit being accomplished by a heightened acidity. Imagine something along the lines of a Beaujolais and you won't be too far off the mark.

Barbera typically shows a quite overt grapey quality, and can be successfully paired with most pasta or lighter meat dishes. For the Piedmontese, Barbera is THE quaffing wine par excellence. It is normally made to be drunk when young and fresh.

There are, however, a few exceptions. Some of the more renowned producers of Barbaresco and Barolo also produce heavily extracted Barberas with plenty of dense fruit and oomph. Usually, such wines cost substantially more than their counterparts. The 'up side' is that they can stand up to longer bottle maturation (often necessary, in fact!) and much richer dishes with little difficulty.
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Jim might like some of the Lambruscos and some of the Portuguese roses based on how he described the wine. We went through a hell of a lot of them in college and most of those girls weren't real wine drinkers.
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