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Old 08-11-2016, 03:43 AM   #1
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I'm confused

For months, we've been bombarded with doom & gloom reports about the new FDA regulations. All new cigars (retroactive to 2007) will need to be submitted for approval, cost estimated to be somewhere between $200,000 and $2,000,000 per new cigar. Everybody but the big guys will be driven out of business. Retailers went into a frenzy of "Buy these while you still can!" sales...most of which turned out to be little more than dumping cheap bundled cigars and other low-end stuff they couldn't sell.

The new regs went into effect on Monday...and yet the tide of "Check out the new IPCPR releases!" emails continues unabated. So what's going on? Are the manufacturers simply ignoring the new rules, or has this been a Chicken Little thing?
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Old 08-11-2016, 04:42 AM   #2
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Doug below is a link to some of the rules and applicable dates to the new rule provisions. There is some grace period to some of this, some going out into 2018. My take is that there will be a bit of a delay before you will start seeing massive advertising and sales changes.

http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProducts/G.../ucm500778.htm
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Thanks, James.
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Old 08-11-2016, 08:24 AM   #4
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There's a whole other world out there. The USA is one country. Two years from now we'll all be ordering our cigars, both Cuban and non-Cuban, from Hong Kong and Spain.
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Doug below is a link to some of the rules and applicable dates to the new rule provisions. There is some grace period to some of this, some going out into 2018. My take is that there will be a bit of a delay before you will start seeing massive advertising and sales changes.

http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProducts/G.../ucm500778.htm
Classic Obama. Like Obamacare and many other controversial things he has implemented, he phases them in after elections.
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Interesting article in today's WSJ talking about this. It seems that manufacturers rushed to deliver new brands before the deadlines. Rocky and others were quoted as saying they rushed aging from 6 month minimums to only three months and that many of these cigars will be "green." It also said that many factories were working 18 hour days just to get stuff out before the 8th.
Sounds like lower quality for a lot of these newbies.
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Take it to PM, guys. Don't need any infighting here.
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For months, we've been bombarded with doom & gloom reports about the new FDA regulations. All new cigars (retroactive to 2007) will need to be submitted for approval, cost estimated to be somewhere between $200,000 and $2,000,000 per new cigar. Everybody but the big guys will be driven out of business. Retailers went into a frenzy of "Buy these while you still can!" sales...most of which turned out to be little more than dumping cheap bundled cigars and other low-end stuff they couldn't sell.

The new regs went into effect on Monday...and yet the tide of "Check out the new IPCPR releases!" emails continues unabated. So what's going on? Are the manufacturers simply ignoring the new rules, or has this been a Chicken Little thing?
Don't you remember how Schip was going to be the end of affordable cigars in America?

I am still on the fence about this one but leaning toward chicken little.
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Old 08-30-2016, 07:02 AM   #9
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Don't you remember how Schip was going to be the end of affordable cigars in America?

I am still on the fence about this one but leaning toward chicken little.
and it was, really. I good $4.99 stick from 4 years ago is 9$ now...
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I didn't notice that much of a change in my area.


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